Science and the Sacred

One Body

Wednesday November 4, 2009

Categories: Daily Thoughts
paperchainpeople.jpg"God does not call us to a life of studying science -- he calls us to a life of following in Christ's footsteps. Hence we must be patient with each other to follow truth as we see it in Scripture. We must recognize that we will never reach the point where we all see Scripture the same way. Although you may be absolutely certain that God created gradually, this does not mean that you are somehow less obligated to love and care for someone who is equally certain that God created suddenly. We are one body and we must nurture and care for each other, all the more so when we think differently on some points.

[...] Christians who believe in gradual creation must not be made to feel like prodigal children anymore. By the same token, those who believe in gradual creation must not look down on those who hold to a sudden creation view, as though they are somehow less intelligent."

Darrel Falk, Coming to Peace With Science, page 233

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pds
November 10, 2009 9:42 AM

Gordon,

I wish I had time to counter with a laundry list of failed predictions, but you can find all those in the relevant literature.

Are you going to the Biologos workshop in NY? Are any ID proponents invited?

Gordon J. Glover
November 10, 2009 10:26 AM
http://www.beyondthefirmament.com

I have no doubt that some predictions of evolution do fail initially. But you have to understand this in the context of how science advances. When Gravitation "failed" to predict the orbit of Uranus, Neptune was discovered. When Gravitiation "failed" to predict the orbit of Mercury, it had to be rescued by Relativity. We now understand gravity to be merely a special case of Relativity, and both are ultimatly flawed because of their incongruence with quantum mechanics.

I have no doubt that the same sort of things are going on in the biological sciences. Evolution makes testable predictions. When they turn out to be true, the theory is strengthened. When they fail, as in the case of certain bacterial phylogenies as reported recently in NEW SCIENTIST, it means we don't fully understand, or haven't correctly captured how evolution works. Either way, science presses forward.

The problem with ID is that id doesn't even function on this level. The only prediction it can make is that some questions might prove too difficult to answer. But so what? How does that prove anything except our own finite knowledge? Even when plausible mechanisms are proposed for evolution, these can simply be attributed to design because design is unconstrained. Design can look like evolution if it wants to. Desgin follows no rules. If there are patterns, then it's becuase of design. If there are no patterns are incongruent patters, then it's because of design. etc...

I wish I were going to the workshop, but I don't qualify as being a leading evangelical, a leading Bible scholar, or a leading scientist. I think it will be diverse crowd, but I don't know who exactly was invited. I look forward to the proceedings!

Beaglelady
November 10, 2009 11:55 AM

I heard that a full list of attendees was not being released. Apparently some wish to attend as anonymously as possible. This is just what I heard; you could contact BioLogos to find out for sure.

Beaglelady
November 10, 2009 12:04 PM

Here's a link about the BioLogos Workshop. I hope they put it on YouTube.

Beaglelady
November 11, 2009 10:02 AM

Gordon,

I think you should have been invited to the workshop since you are an author and a leading contributor on this blog.

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The BioLogos Foundation promotes the search for truth in both the natural and spiritual realms, and seeks to harmonize these different perspectives.
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Darrel Falk
Dr. Darrel Falk is Professor of Biology at Point Loma Nazarene University in San Diego, where he has taught since 1988. He is the author of Coming to Peace with Science: Bridging the Worlds Between Faith and Biology (InterVarsity Press, Downer's Grove, Il
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Karl Giberson
Dr. Karl Giberson is an internationally known scholar of science-and-religion and one of America’s leading participants in the creation/evolution controversy. He is the author of four books, including, “Saving Darwin".
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