How Many Obamagelicals Are There?
Monday June 30, 2008
The few of us who argued over the years that Democrats would be wise to court evangelicals were usually told that such a strategy was a waste of time and resources. Those pro-life, anti-gay "fundamentalists" would never vote Democratic. Barack...
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One of the most interesting statistical anomalies is that while the percentage of the population that is gay is probably about the same as the percentage that is Evangelical and the gay population, being pretty much exclusively adult in identification has a larger number of voters.
The difference is that while the gays are concentrated in urban areas where their votes actually count less in Presidential politics, the Evangelicals are more spread out and thus their votes, while actually fewer as their numbers include non-voting children, have more electoral clout. So while in theory the Democrat's lock on the gays should give them a significant advantage in numbers, it does not work that way in reality.
Mr. Waldman,
I wanna be a blogger on Beliefnet. David Kuo has profiled me. Most important, I enjoy the dialog and I respect people.
Yeah, this might be considered pretentious; but my heart is true.
I'm addicted to Beliefnet, even more than YAHOO! with which lies my email account.
I think that Beliefnet has a lot of integrity and I'd be proud to be included.
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I am a public school teacher by trade. (Right now, I'm going into nursing.)
I am bilingual and have lived overseas.
I am a failed Evangelical Lutheran Seminary Candidate.
I am a follower of GOD; A COURSE IN MIRACLES; my babyboomer parents; Ralph Nader; Eckhart Tolle; Twilight Zone; Science of Mind/Ernest Holmes; Sci-Fi author, Douglas Adams; etc.
& I'm not an Obamagelical, even though I caucused with my heart and soul for OBAMA.
I believe in HEART & critical thought.
I'm a Lefty New Age agitator with an Evangelical Background.
(Not necessarily in that order)
My samples include my Kuo profile and my recent interactions with Michele (Reformed Chick Babbling).
Whatever.
Peace Out.
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I come from a conservative Roman Catholic background but became a liberal/progressive Evangelical when I grew up. My Father who never voted for a Democrat in his life became a fan of Barbara Jordon and later voted for Bill Clinton.
Yes, the leopard can change his spots if motivated by current events. Today's economy, the war in Iraq and the greed of the Corporations are causing people of all faiths to reevaluate the ideology of the Republican party and to question the broken promises of the Bush leadership.
We haven't changed our ideals, we just don't trust the GOP to live up to their pledges to the causes we endorse. The environment, the gas prices, the war and the failures of the Bushes have left us alone and disenfranchised. I am pro life, from the womb to the grave and the GOP has done nothing to save a single life. If I can't find releif in my old age, my pention protected and the my health benifits secured, why should I trust the GOP any more?
Kind of embarrassed about my earlier post. I was a bit inebriated. I was checkin' to see if it was deleted.
Just noticing Paul's post and think he's really got it.
My worry is that the Republican drumbeats for war with Iran are real. I saw an ABC news item about the Israelis fixing to strike Iran possibly before the year's over.
Folks, if we have any kind of conventional war with Iran, I'm thinkin' there's gonna be a draft. McCain has said that he wouldn't draft unless it's WWIII. I think a war with Iran would trigger just that.
I hope Israel is contained.
My step grandad, the honorable guy that raised my dad from his childhood on because my dad was orphaned, was Jewish. I had a great Jewish childhood friend, and so did my sister. I'd have no problem with my future kids marrying Jews. Heck, I'd consider adopting a Jewish kid.
I feel like a big mistake in our history was not letting Jewish people settle here in the States. I don't blame them for wanting their own land and don't doubt that Europe, just after WWII, had plenty of antisemitism. Sadly it lay in our own country too (think about how folks feel about Latinos). Coulda woulda shoulda
I really hope and pray that we can have peace. Without it - it's lookin' like a bleak 21st Century. I gotta admit severe disappointment because when the Cold War ended, I really thought humanity had grown. I used to be quite paranoid of nuclear war.
Iran has the capability, according to our own intelligence, to rapidly lay mines in the Persian Gulf which could bring oil delivery to a halt. Just think what that would mean in the way of inflation. Think of what it would mean for folks like Paul and folks on a fixed incomes.
And seriously consider the prospect of kids being drafted, even out of the burbs. If we have a new draft, I think everybody ought to go so it's fair - no deferments.
War is wasting us away.
I have a hard time accepting the GOP's intolerence for anyone who is not Christian - don't other people of faith count. Never once, have I heard someone speak out and include other Patriotic individuals who do not share their religious beliefs mentioned. What about American's who are Jewish, Buddist, Muslims, and so forth. America was founded on freedom of religion but it seems that only Protestant Christians are what really matter. I am so tired of Evangalical Christians telling me what I must believe. Hasn't George W. Bush's religious war taught us anything. I find it amazing that Mrs. Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant and the Evangalicals are praising her - call me jaded but had that been anyone of the other party and it would have been a child "created in sin"
As with many of the GOP policies I have a real conflict with my faith being dictated. I too, as was Paul, was raised catholic and while I personally would not choose abortion, I believe that should be between the woman and god - not the woman and the GOP
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