Did We Really Win the Cold War Without Firing a Shot?
Sunday August 17, 2008
John McCain said yesterday that Ronald Reagan had won the cold war "without firing a shot." Whatever happened to: The Korean War The Vietnam War The Contras & Nicaragua The Mayaguez The Pueblo (Did I forget any?) I was under...
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At the very end, when Reagan actually won. That was extremely shotless.
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Cold War Casualties
* Using the strictest criteria 382 deaths caused by hostile acts occurred during the early period of the Cold War . We believe the number should be much higher, and include operational losses such as the crew of 99 lost on the submarine USS Scorpion, lost at sea in May 1968. At numerous times during the Cold War, large losses were taken in ambiguous circumstances, and were often shrouded in secrecy. Combat deaths were classified as "accidents" due to political or security reasons, and thus the public at large (and too often, the next-of-kin) were denied the truth. Source VFW St Pete Times
* DOD list 165 POW/MIA from Cold War Shoot Downs 125 still listed as missing. Source DOD
* The Cold War from September 1945 - December 26, 1991, was global in nature, and many facets and changing strategic considerations. During some parts of the period, actual shooting wars were involved, but always it was a political and military confrontation. Many of the losses in the Cold War were on missions that were under the veil of secrecy.
* Of 382 here are some major losses not included : Berlin Airlift 31 Americans killed in accidents, USS Thresher 125 lost, USS Scorpion 99 Crew Lost, USS Liberty 34 Killed and 173 wounded by Israeli Attack, Mayaguez Incident 18 KIA, 3 MIA and 41 wounded,
"Freedom has never been Free not now and not during the Cold War"
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Sean Eagan
American Cold War Veterans, Inc.
Web: http://americancoldwarvets.org/
Blog: Cold War Veterans Blog
Email: Sean.Eagan@gmail.com
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The idea that Ronald Reagan won the Cold War has been taken up by the conservative wing of American politics without discretion. This premise ignores ALL the veterans who served before the Berlin Wall was torn down, the Berlin Airlift of 1948, President Kennedy's reaction to the Cuban Missile Crisis by forcing the Soviets hand and getting them to remove the missiles, and the presence of US troops in post-war Europe and Japan which kept the Soviets from taking over in these places. In post-World War II Europe, US troops kept the Soviets from further advancement, and complemented George F. Kennan's incubatory containment policy---which was economic and political in spirit. But Kennan could't have accomplished what he did without US troops stationed beyond the Eastern European perimeter.
FRANK D
SO WHAT SENATOR MCCAIN/ GOVERNOR PALIN IS ALSO TELLING ME THAT THE FILM WITH BURT THE TURTLE (DUCK AND COVER),PHRASES LIKE ''WE WILL BURY YOU'',UNCLASSIFIED FILM OF ATOMIC BOMB TESTS LIKE OPERATIONS HARDTACK,TUMBLER SNAPPER,OPERATION URGENT FURY (GRENADA),OPREATION AJAX (IRAN IN THE EARLY 1950'S),BLUE BAT (LEBANON),THOSE DEATHS IN ANGOLA,THOSE PEOPLE WHO DIED TRYING TO ESCAPE FROM EAST GERMANY,THE PEOPLE WHO DIED AT THE HANDS OF THE KGB/WARSAW PACT COUNTRIES,THOSE WHO WERE ASSASINATED BY COVERT MEANS,CHURCHILL'S IRON CURTAIN SPEECH,THE ADVISORS IN GREECE,ETC,ETC,ETC WERE JUST SOME EVENTS THAT DOESN'T MERIT ANY CONSIDERATION PERIOD?,GO FIGURE!
Lets not forget the Beirut Marine Barracks bombing 241 dead with 60 wounded. USS Stark 37 killed 21 injured by attack by an Iraqui jet.__The Congo, Cuba, Grenada, Haiti, Dominican Republic, Panama and__others.____Plus there is not mention of "training accidents" or "equipment malfunction", but they are just as dead as anyone shot.____All POW-MIA on their website http://www.aiipowmia.com/stats.html__lists 407,316 from the Cold War Era. ____For over 45 years the people of the world held their breaths waiting for nuclear war to start. It never happened because our "Cold Warriors" stood ready and armed and faced down the Communist threat.____Jerald Terwilliger__Vice Chairman__American Cold War Veterans__www.americancoldwarvets.org__"We Remember"
Hello,
My name is Mick Stewart and I am the President of the Allied Forces Cold War Association [ AFCWA ] and Post Commander [ Post 1 - Cold War Prisoners of War / Missing in Action POW/MIA ] in Houston, Texas. We are a new Cold War veterans society, formed this month on 1 May 2009 - Cold War Victory Day. Membership in our organization is unique, in that veterans who served in NATO, SEATO, or any nation allied to the United States in the fight against Communism, 1945-1991 is viable for membership. We are the first international Cold War veterans organization, based in the United States that offers membership to allied veterans.
We have just established a new Cold War Veterans Forum. Would you publish our forum on your website or to your members?
The Allied Forces Cold War Association [ AFCWA ] / Cold War Veterans Forum
http://coldwarvets.proboards.com/index.cgi
Thank you for your support of the Allied Forces Cold War Association [ AFCWA ].
WE SERVED IN DEFENCE OF FREEDOM
Regards,
Michael W. "Mick" Stewart
Post Commander / Post 1 "Cold War POW/MIA" National HQ
1230 Gardenia Drive Houston Texas 77018-4212
Main Web http://coldwarvets.proboards.com
Contact phone 713.683.0399 [ main ]
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