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Oh Dear. Who Will Tell Dobson That McCain/Palin Are Violating the Abortion Platform?

posted by swaldman | 3:58pm Wednesday October 22, 2008

James Dobson seems unaware that John McCain and Sarah Palin have diverged from the Republican platform. In his new interview of Sarah Palin, he gushes about how pro-life the Republican platform is. “The Republican Platform is the strongest pro-life, pro-family document to come out of a political party, even more so than the platforms during the campaigns of Ronald Reagan.” (He right about that.) He then asks whether McCain (whom Dobson has distrusted in the past) really supports the platform. Palin vouches for McCain. “I am such a strong believer that McCain believes in those strong planks,” she says.
I don’t want to be in the room when someone breaks it to Dr. Dobson that McCain and Palin have departed from the platform in the last two months in significant ways.
Constitutional Amendment – The Republican platform calls for a “human life amendment,” a national ban on abortions, even in cases of rape and incest. But for the past two months neither McCain nor Palin have mentioned the amendment. Indeed, they’ve stressed a states rights position that would make it perfectly possible for many states to continue to allow legal abortion. “States should be able to decide that issue,” Palin said. “I believe that if Roe v. Wade were overturned then the states would make these decisions ,” McCain said.
The Rape Exception — Asked by Katie Couric if abortion in the case of rape should be illegal, Palin said she would “counsel” the woman “to choose life.” That’s a pro-choice position. The platform calls for an outright ban, including in cases of rape and incest.
Right to Privacy — Republicans oppose Roe v. Wade because the Justices found a “right to privacy” where none had previously been thought to exist. That’s the foundation of “abortion rights.” Sarah Palin says the Constitution does contain a right to privacy.
Stem Cell Resesarch — The Republican platform this year called for a ban on all embryonic stem cell research. But the McCain campaign ran a radio ad declaring: “John McCain will lead his congressional allies to improve America’s health. Stem-cell research to unlock the mystery of cancer, diabetes, heart disease. Stem-cell research to help free families from the fear and devastation of illness. Stem-cell research to help doctors repair spinal cord damage, knee injuries, serious burns. Stem-cell research to help stroke victims.” Technically, the ad doesn’t specify whether he meant embryonic stem cell but usually when politicians hit stem-cell research so hard they mean embryonic unless they specify otherwise.
Will anyone tell Dr. Dobson?



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Scruffy

posted October 22, 2008 at 4:38 pm


Dr. Dobson hears only what he wants to hear. The difference between Obama and McCain on the right of life is not that far apart. While Obama is pro choice, he believes in the right of care for those who chose life. McCain believes that the states have the right to choice to be pro life or pro choice and not the Feds.
As far as Ronald Reagan is concerned, he was a quasi christian who let soothsayers and new age religion into the White House. Yet somehow he is lifted up by the Religious Right as God’s President. Dr Dobson loved this man of little faith and he still condemns Obama, go figure.



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realbeliever21

posted October 22, 2008 at 4:55 pm


dear Steve
I do not condone John McCain, but I think people put too little faith in Sarah and her ability to change minds and hearts.
I also think people put too little faith in the Roman Catholic rigorous thinkers on our Supreme Court. One more strict interpreter, and there is no reason why the Justices could not find that not only is there no “right” to an abortion in our beloved Constitution, but that the individual human, who is an individual with all the traits of personality at conception, is protected by the 13th and 14th Amendments. This will makke the legality of abortion exceptions moot.
Prediction: the Palin SCOTUS will affirm the Right to Life already exists from conception.
In other words, overturning Roe, which is the worst decision ever, worse than Dred Scott because at least Dred Scott had a right to live albeit the atrocious evil of slavery still hung over him, an evil rid by Republican, conservative, Christians by the way, will also include affirming the Right to Life already exists and that “No state shall abridge that right.”
All the Catholic Justices know that life begins and is protected from conception. We need one more Sarah Palin type. Don’t think for a minute that when those appointments come to be made, Sarah won’t be the main person making them.
I do not excuse McCain’s liberalism; I just know what Sarah can do because of the way God Himself has spoken through her and to her, and to us through her.



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Alan

posted October 22, 2008 at 5:08 pm


Re Palin and the “right to privacy”, I saw her when she answered the question and she pretty clearly didn’t understand what was meant. She affirmed that she believed in it then went on to her talking points. If someone explained what it meant, she might give a different answer.



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Astonishing

posted October 22, 2008 at 5:22 pm


Real Believer,
Beware of false prophets… seriously.
How do you feel about the death penalty? About war? Civilian deaths? Genocide? Torture?
If you support them, you’re getting into muddy ground… the same muddy ground that pro-choicers get into.
All I’m saying is stop believing that political leaders are sent by the Heaven’s above. Political leaders do bad things. They lie, they cheat, they steal, they blame, they hurt. ALL of them do it. To deify Sarah Palin is irresponsible and lamentable.



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Karen

posted October 22, 2008 at 7:29 pm


I wonder what “Focus on the Family” Dobson has to say about those families that are built via fertility treatments that pump a woman full of fertilized eggs, figuring she can just abort the “extras.” I never hear anyone talk about this in all their hemming and hawing about abortion. Why is it OK for that to happen, but not OK for a rape or incest victim to receive the Plan B pill?



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Hazelbrigz

posted October 22, 2008 at 8:13 pm


Real Believer,
I’m with “Astonishing” on this one — the Right to Life cannot only be measured in trimesters…in other words, that same “Right to Life” has got to be across the board, i.e., ‘death penalty, war, civilian deaths, genocide, torture,’ all of which is going on in the world today but people are certainly not taking that into consideration for this election.
If we haven’t learned anything else in the past 8 years, surely we have learned that politicians “lie, cheat, steal, blame, and hurt.” The most we can do for whoever is elected is pray that God’s will be done, and then let God do it! I, for one, am tired of the “Religious Right” consistently telling God what His will is!



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Danielle

posted October 22, 2008 at 9:30 pm


Karen…
Responsible fertility doctors do not create an excessive amount of eggs nor pump a woman full of fertilized eggs. (Regardless of what the world sees on Jon & Kate + 8)



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Karen

posted October 22, 2008 at 9:55 pm


Danielle, the key word you used was “responsible.” But how many doctors are out there who are NOT responsible? And how many women are out there who will do whatever it takes to ensure a pregnancy? The point is, what are all the pro-lifers doing to make this practice ILLEGAL? And why aren’t they as vocal about this as they are about defending medical professionals’ “rights” to deny Plan B to rape victims?



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Ernesto

posted October 22, 2008 at 10:39 pm


Please consider posting this video and passing it along, it’s amazing. It’s great at showing the distinction between MaCain and Obama in regards to the abortion issue. Please pass this along to everyone you know. We have to get McCain elected… E
http://americaschoicenow.com/
Abortion is advocated only by persons who have themselves been born.
Ronald Reagan



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Charles Cosimano

posted October 22, 2008 at 10:44 pm


Actually, it will be “Who will tell James Dobson to take a short walk off a cliff?” after Obama wins in a landslide.



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john

posted October 22, 2008 at 10:53 pm


here is the truth look it up the repubilcans dont want to over turn roe vs wade google it and you will see the truth many repubilcans are pro coice like joe leberman johns best friend he is independent. you will be shocked to see who dont want to over turn roe ys wade . start with bush mother. bush wife . rice s.state go look it up i was shocked



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Whitecrow

posted October 22, 2008 at 10:59 pm


Don’t tell Dobson anything. Let him live in his childish delusion; Let it be his down fall.



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Tom

posted October 23, 2008 at 12:37 am


I’d be rather careful, Mr. Waldman, about equating the Republican National Coalition for Life and their terms for endorsement as equivalent to the Republican National Platform, unless you have another agenda to cause dissention among pro-life voters, in which case I must congradulate you on a job well-done (were the average pro-lifer ill-informed and narrow-minded :-) . Although I personally agree with the RNCL’s position pertaining to all you mentioned in the article, it doesn’t necessarily represent the ‘official’ Republican National Platform, any more than Catholics United and Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good represent the official teaching of the Catholic Church. Nice try, though.



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Nancy

posted October 23, 2008 at 1:47 am


Of course the republicans don’t want to overturn r v w. What’s in it for them? You’ve been played. They care about abortion like Bush is a Christian.
This site is rife with anti-abortion sentiment. It seems to be sincerely felt. What I don’t get is that, in typical Conservative overly-simplistic fashion, there is no talk of addressing the causes of abortion. Look at the demographics. 75% percent of abortions are done on low-income women belonging to a visible minority. Poverty is a factor. Education is a factor. Gender equality is a factor. Racism is a factor.
Do you staunch pro-lifers care about these factors. You’re generally the same people who blow smoke at the mention of increased taxes for social programs.
Is it okay to condemn the act, ignore the causes, and stay not venture past that? This is a moral question.



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J R Dittbrenner

posted October 23, 2008 at 6:23 am


Back in the 40s, when the service wives were left alone over very long periods, they aborted; any of you ever clean up after a coat-hanger. The patient’s mind and body were a mess.
Sincerely, An ex-corpsman,USN



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Athelstane

posted October 23, 2008 at 10:39 am


“Poverty is a factor.”
Which explains why Sweden has exactly the same abortion rate as the United States.



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Colleenc

posted October 23, 2008 at 12:15 pm


No matter what the reason for abortion, it’s still taking the life of a little defenseless child in a very painful way. Have any of you seen a video of a late term abortion? It is absolutely barbaric! Even early abortions are gruesome! Baby body parts — legs, arms eyeballs quite visible. I find it unbelievable that this horrific act is legal and Molloch Obama plans on signing the Freedom of Choice Act as soon as possible! BTW, I am very active in a crisis pregnancy center. We help girls with counseling before and after the pregnancy. We offer free baby clothes, diapers, formula, baby care classes etc… So, yes, I do try to help these poor girls who really are in great need at a very difficult time in their lives.



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Tom

posted October 23, 2008 at 1:04 pm


“75% percent of abortions are done on low-income women belonging to a visible minority. Poverty is a factor. Education is a factor. Gender equality is a factor. Racism is a factor.”
“Do you staunch pro-lifers care about these factors?”
I personally know of no pro-lifers who don’t care about these very pertinent issues, being personally involved in fund-raising efforts that address some of the factors that you listed.
“Is it okay to condemn the act, ignore the causes, and stay not venture past that? This is a moral question.”
No it isn’t, but this seems like a straw-man argument at best.



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Mrs. Wayne Hunter

posted October 23, 2008 at 2:36 pm


I am so glad to see someone pointing these things out. As an Alaskan who is heavily involved in our state and local pro-life movement, I can tell you that Sarah Palin IS NOT pro-life, at least not in action. We have had five bills and two resolutions in legislation up here since she has taken office and NOT ONE OF THEM HAS BECAME LAW. She has not passed one piece of pro-life legislation since taking office. She also held the key to calling a special session this year regarding two pro-life bills: partial birth abortion and parental consent for a minor’s abortion. Calling the special session was the only hope that Alaskan pro-lifers had left for these bills – and she CHOSE not to call it. How dare she have the gall to want to call Obama (I’m no supporter of his, either) out on his partial birth abortion record when she did no better herself.
As far as her Down’s Syndrome son making her pro-life, that’s just not so. I have counselled abortion minded women for years and can tell you that if many women given a special needs prenatal diagnosis had the support, help, and a full-time stay-at-home-husband like Sarah Palin has, they’d choose life for their children, too.



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ExFeminist

posted October 24, 2008 at 9:12 am


To the corpsman, I am 47 and still a virgin. Because a wife is left alone for a long period of time, does not mean it is right to sleep with someone else. If I take LSD or drive at 120 miles per hour or jump off a cliff, I am taking my life in my hands. I am tired of that argument. Those who scream about controling their bodies, should….
I believe in being “total life” including helping poor people get ahead (which I have devoted my life to) – I am tired of middle and wealthy whites making this excuse too (the excuse maker cares as much about the poor usually as their pro-life hypocrite) – maybe everyone here should live in Eritrea for a year. By the way special needs Mrs. Hunter, I have two Kanner’s autism brothers (much worse than Downs), an Aspberger’s nephew and myself have a brain injury and I am tired of selfish people making excuses of getting rid of inconvenient people who take more of their time. Down’s can do a lot in life! (so can my genius Aspberger’s nephew), and if you don’t want children who are handicapped or come at an inconvenient time, my advice is to get spaded and not bring any children into this world – you certainly don’t love the child! That a woman or man has no time to devote to a handicapped child is a lame excuse! I think you guys need to switch identities with a cerebal palsy or handicapped person for a day, then dropped off in Cambodia or Iraq or Chad for a few months and realize how selfish and spoiled you are!



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Doni Whitley

posted October 25, 2008 at 12:39 pm


The republican platform says NO ABORTION. Does that include an ectopic pregnancy? How far does this NO policy go?



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Tom

posted October 27, 2008 at 1:34 pm


I believe this is the platform of the Republican National Coalition for Life, not the official platform of the Republican Party. I don’t imagine the RNCL would be in favor of chemical abortificients in the case of ectopic pregnancy. If possible, it would be permissible for a doctor to sergically remove a fallopian tube or other body part and allow the fetus to die. Most Republicans would probably be for allowing abortions in grave circumstances as being ‘pro-life’ can cover a fairly wide spectrum, the same as ‘pro-choice’ doesn’t necessarily mean allowing for abortion under any circumstance and providing local and federal tax dollars for it(although there is at least one very notable exception.)



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Mrs. Wayne Hunter

posted October 28, 2008 at 2:13 am


ExFeminist,
I can’t quite make out what you are trying to relate in your comment regarding me and special needs children. I don’t try to talk any woman into an abortion regardless of her child’s or her condition; I am pro-life and try to help women find the help they need to continue their pregnancies. I apologize if my comment was unclear.
Sincerely,
Mrs. Wayne Hunter



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Richard

posted October 29, 2008 at 8:01 pm


I really appreciate your strong stand for Pro-Life, but “total life” may be better? I’ll note a few observations from my humble opinion.
1. The Govenor of any state can’t make Pro-Life law they can only be prepared to sign it if the legislature voted a bill to be law that is the real answer. I haven’t seen the bills, but prefer to er on the side of Sarah and not accuse her of haveing an easy descision due to a stay at home dad. “Total life” is a great point ExFeminist posted and Tom clearly addressed the big picture which is missed in PRO-Life
Those two bills you referred to have other things involved and half a salution is no salution. They can be forcing a choice on a young girl into getting an abortion in an unhealthy way so more will be found in restroom trash or what happens to that family where incest was the cause; beside Dad,Uncle or grandpa’s 25 years in prison and she lives with the fact that she is the one who caused it even though in no way that is excuse for Him doing it. That whole family will need life healing for life. I have dozens on cases in point from serving entire families in the prison system so we need to stop being at battle and dialogue the big picture. Many on both sides don’t really understand so maybe thats a calling for you Tom since your way of expressing it seems to be the most honest,loving and Godly that I have ever heard. We are called to LOVE & Believe lets stick to basics



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Mrs. Wayne Hunter

posted October 31, 2008 at 1:17 pm


Richard,
Are you an Alaskan? I ask because if not, you don’t know what is going on here in the pro-life movement like Alaskans do. To respond to your points:
1. Sarah Palin did have the opportunity to call a special session on two pro-life bills: partial birth abortion and parental consent for a minor’s abortion. She chose not to call it. Both bills had strong support, both bills had a chance. My husband and I are involved in politics in our state and speak to legislators. Sarah didn’t call the session because getting an oil deal in our state was more of a big deal to her and because she and Senate President Lyda Green were passing the buck on the legislation.
2. There was plenty of language in the parental consent law to cover such loopholes that you mention.
3. As far as Todd being a stay-at-home Dad and raising Trig, I’ll stand by my comment.



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Melissa Lively

posted November 4, 2008 at 2:06 pm


Sarah Palin does not care about raising her own children, why would she care about abortion. All she cares about is being Vice President of the United States.



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Jontemplar

posted November 8, 2008 at 10:46 pm


What the partial birth abortion is going on here? The wicked witch of the Great White North was trying a homemade partial birth abortion on little Trig. She says her water broke in Texas one month early, got on a plane and flew 10 hrs minimum, 20 hrs with layovers home to Alaska to give birth? This was high-risk pregnancy. Airlines don’t allow women to fly if their water broke or they are in labor. Doctors tell you don’t fly that late in your pregnancy. She risked her baby’s life with Strep B, infections, and Downsyndrome children typically have heart defects, lung, brain, and numerous other conditions that can make survival without immediate medical care unlikely. What a wonderful caring mother “this one” is.
From personal experience with my own wife’s water breaking at work, no contractions, our reaction, was not to get on a plane and fly to Alaska. Nope, we went to the hospital and delivered a healthy child 6 hrs later. But we did round of anti-biotics and tested for numerous bacteria as prevention.



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