Steven Waldman

New Ad: Obama's Approach Would Reduce Abortions More than the Republicans Would!

Wednesday October 1, 2008

Yowza. This is a first. A Democratic group airing an ad arguing that the pro-choice Democratic candidate will do more to reduce the number of abortions than the Republican. In the ad, Doug Kmiec, the former Reagan administration official...
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Douglas Johnson
October 1, 2008 3:37 PM

There are a few things that we know for sure.

First, Obama certainly does not want to support the work of the crisis pregnancy centers (CPCs) that actually provide all manner of practical assistance to women who are experiencing crisis pregnancies, which save the lives of many children. A very modest amount of federal funding going to such centers in some states. Pro-life lawmakers have pushed legislation to greatly expand such funding, but it has been blocked by lawmakers who allied with the abortion lobby. Late in 2007, RHrealitycheck.org, a prominent pro-abortion advocacy website (representing the side hostile to government funding of CPCs), submitted in writing the following question to the Obama campaign: "Does Sen. Obama support continuing federal funding for crisis pregnancy centers?" The Obama campaign's official written response was short but spoke volumes: "No."

Anybody who is surprised by that has not been paying attention. Obama has never parted company with the abortion lobby on anything. Even on issues on which the abortion lobby itself was divided, such as the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, he has always come down on the most pro-abortion position and stayed there.

The current claims that Obama is interested in "abortion reduction" is merely a short-term post-nomination "messaging strategy."

We also know for sure that Obama would provide unlimited funding to abort the unborn children of the poor. He advocates repeal of the Hyde Amendment, the law that since 1976 has blocked almost all federal funding of abortion, which has been one of the most successful "abortion reduction" policies ever adopted. By even the most conservative estimate, there are more than one million Americans alive today because of the Hyde Amendment. Indeed, the pro-abortion groups periodically put out papers complaining about this effect. According to a 2007 NARAL factsheet, "A study by The Guttmacher Institute shows that Medicaid-eligible women in states that exclude abortion coverage have abortion rates of about half of those women in states that fund abortion care with their own dollars. This suggests that the Hyde amendment forces about half the women who would otherwise have abortions to carry unintended pregnancies to term and bear children against their wishes instead."

In 1993, there was debate in Congress over whether to continue the Hyde Amendment. The Congressional Budget Office (at that time under Democratic control) wrote, "Based on information from the Centers for Disease Control and from States that currently pay for abortions using state funds, the federal government would probably fund between 325,000 to 675,000 abortions each year [if the federal government resumed Medicaid funding for abortion]. The increase in the total number of abortions would be smaller, however, because some abortions that are currently funded by other sources would be partially or totally paid from federal funds . . ."

Although Speaker Nancy Pelosi and most other Democratic congressional leaders are hostile to the Hyde Amendment, the law has been extended anyway because President Bush issued a letter in early 2007 saying that he would veto any bill that weakens any existing pro-life policy. However, because the Hyde Amendment (and a number of similar provisions that govern other federal programs) must be renewed annually, things could change quickly under a president determined to re-establish federal funding of abortion on demand.

By the way, the "abortion providers for Obama" page is not merely a message board, but a group that applied for and was granted official recognition by the Obama campaign, which was a predicate requirement to getting its own area on the official Obama campaign website, which in turn serves as a conduit for donations to the campaign.

Douglas Johnson
Legislative Director
National Right to Life Committee
Washington, D.C.
legfederal//at//aol-dot-com

Mark Baker-Wright
October 1, 2008 4:51 PM

I deeply want to believe that the thrust behind the argument is true: That Obama's policies (taken all together) would result in fewer abortions than McCain's policies (again, taken all together). I am not a one-issue voter, and even if it turns out that Obama's policies aren't ultimately more abortion-reducing than McCain's, I still feel that he's the better candidate on a whole host of other moral issues.

But that Obama is fairly strongly "pro-choice" is a black mark (in my opinion, of course) on an otherwise stellar candidate. So if it could be argued that because he's so much better on so much else, actual abortions would actually become less common, that would be a wonderful thing to say.

But I've heard this argument before, during the last presidential campaign, and those who made the argument (including a professor at the seminary in which I work, who I know and respect) were burned when it turned out that the data they used didn't hold up to closer scrutiny, and this ultimately hurt the credibility of those who made such arguments, at least in the short term.

I don't know how the facts will bear out this time around, but have learned to be more than a little cautious.

Katie Mac
October 1, 2008 6:38 PM

Doug Kmiec is a fraud! He doesn't represent faithful Catholics. He is a "cafeteria" or "cultural" Catholic. He's not convinced anyone of anything. He's just making folks feel better about their decision to vote for a radical pro-abortion candidate. In Catholic circles, he's referred to as "Doug 30-Pieces-of-Silver Kmiec".

Rev. Debra Haffner
October 1, 2008 9:14 PM

Mr. Waldman, I don't understand your confusion about supporting strategies about reducing the number of abortions while also supporting women's moral agency to make these decisions for themselves. If we want to reduce abortions, we must first assure that there are sexuality information and education programs and family planning services so that we reduce the number of unintended pregnancies. We can assure women's access to safe and legal services, including poor women and adolescents, AND work to assure that there is prenatal care, adoption services, parenting programs and economic support for women to carry their babies to term. As a mother, as a minister, and as a woman, I believe abortion is a moral decision, and that it should be safe, legal, accessible, and rare. No contradictions.

Rev. Debra W. Haffner
Director
Religious Institute (www.religiousinstitute.org)
http://debrahaffner.blogspot.com

Sheri
October 1, 2008 11:21 PM

Obama supports Medicaid funding for abortion for constitutional reasons—equality for low income woman. Before abortion was legal, only people with enough money to pay a doctor received a safe abortion. McCain has consistently voted against health care, education and contraceptives funding.

http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/ObamaBlueprintForChange.pdf

Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain Side-By-Side Comparison women's health and reproductive issues

http://tinyurl.com/3hqk7g

Obama:

# Voted YES on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
# Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women. (May 2006)

McCain:
# Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
# Voted NO to required insurance companies to cover contraception. 2003
McCain has not sponsored or cosponsored any bills to provide solutions to reduce abortions.

Obama:

Sponsored bill providing contraceptives for low-income women.
Unintended Pregnancy Reduction Act (S.2916/H.R.5795) 06-S2916 on May 19, 2006

Obama co-sponsored ensuring access to and funding for contraception

A bill to expand access to preventive health care services that help reduce unintended pregnancy, reduce abortions, and improve access to women's health care. The Congress finds as follows:

1. Healthy People 2010 sets forth a reduction of unintended pregnancies as an important health objective to achieve over the first decade of the new century.
2. Although the CDC included family planning in its published list of the Ten Great Public Health Achievements in the 20th Century, the US still has one of the highest rates of unintended pregnancies among industrialized nations.
3. Each year, 3,000,000 pregnancies, nearly half of all pregnancies, in the US are unintended, and nearly half of unintended pregnancies end in abortion.
4. In 2004, 34,400,000 women, half of all women of reproductive age, were in need of contraceptive services, and nearly half of those were in need of public support for such care.
5. The US has the highest rate of infection with sexually transmitted diseases of any industrialized country. 19 million cases impose a tremendous economic burden, as high as $14 billion per year.
6. Increasing access to family planning services will improve women's health and reduce the rates of unintended pregnancy, abortion, and infection with sexually transmitted diseases. Contraceptive use saves public health dollars. For every dollar spent to increase funding for family planning programs, $3.80 is saved.
7. Contraception is basic health care that improves the health of women and children by enabling women to plan and space births.
8. Women experiencing unintended pregnancy are at greater risk for physical abuse and women having closely spaced births are at greater risk of maternal death.
9. A child born from an unintended pregnancy is at greater risk of low birth weight, dying in the first year of life, being abused, and not receiving sufficient resources for healthy development.

Source: Prevention First Act (S.21/H.R.819) 2007-HR819 on Feb 5, 2007

McCain:

GovWatch: 1999: Don't force women to have illegal operations
Top McCain Flip Flops: #4. Roe vs Wade:

In August 1999, McCain told the San Francisco Chronicle that he would "not support repeal of Roe vs Wade" because it would force women to undergo illegal operations. He has subsequently said that he was speaking about the need to change the "culture of America", and supports the repeal of Roe vs Wade.
Source: GovWatch on 2008 campaign: "Top Ten Flip-Flops" Feb 5, 2008

GL
October 2, 2008 4:33 AM

What I want to know is why reducing abortion is our goal instead of increasing justice? A just world is one in which we make sure that options are available so choices are made freely. That means making adoption, childbearing, childrearing, avoiding pregnancy, and yes having abortions all accessible, legal, safe, viable options. Until we live in that world of uncoerced moral agency for women deciding whether or not to offer up their bodies as 9 month life support machines, we need to stop focusing on numbers of abortions and start focusing on numbers of options truly available. If all options were available and viable, would some women choose to continue their pregnancy instead of having abortions? Definitely. Would others (thanks to no longer being forced to continue creating a child against their will) opt for an abortion? Definitely. If we stop focusing on coercing women into making certain decisions and instead focus on US and making sure that WE are not hindering justice, we might actually do some good.

Steve K.
October 2, 2008 1:13 PM

"What I want to know is why reducing abortion is our goal instead of increasing justice?"

Because ensuring that the most vulnerable humans of all can't be killed with impunity on the whim of the mother or anyone else is a pretty strong justice issue. Being killed without your consent turns out to be a big injustice.

It really is that simple, GL.

Maplewood
October 2, 2008 3:54 PM

Kmiec has it right.

After 40 years, we are no closer to overturning Roe today than 1968. The "pro-life" politicians have been playing us like fish on a line for 4 decades. 7 of the 9 Justices are Repub judges, and no work is being done. We have been suckers.

Let's do something more realistic. Let's vote for the people who will eliminate the economic reasons why 60% of abortions are performed in the US.

I'll take 60% of a loaf rather than none.

Ed Johnson
October 2, 2008 6:14 PM

Kmiec has children's blood on his hands. Obama voted to allow children who SURVIVE abortions and are born ALIVE to be left to die in sinks, trash dumpsters, etc. Just let them cry 'til they die, he voted. Kmiec is a disgrace and will have to answer the Lord for this moral crime someday.

Jack McCarthy
October 2, 2008 6:20 PM

I agree with Ed. Kmiec is a disgrace. Obama is depraved. Kmiec is a shill for a heartless baby killer! And to think, Kmiec has delusions of being well-received at the Vatican someday!

Sara
October 2, 2008 7:13 PM

It's disingenuous to suggest that only poor people are having abortions, and that Obama's economic plan will make everyone so wealthy that it will reduce the selfishness that causes abortion.

Obama wants to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, meaning he doesn't want children conceived and not wanted. Will he do anything to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies that end in abortion? That is, if a woman doesn't want her baby, should anyone or anything stop her from killing him or her? Obama would answer with a resounding "No." He has said quite clearly that if a woman decides her baby should die, and if in the process of the killing the baby makes it out alive, even then nothing should be done to pressure the woman to keep the child.

(PS- If 60% of abortions are performed in the wealthiest country on the planet, doesn't that suggest that the primary reason for these abortions are NOT economic?)

Lorraine
October 2, 2008 8:43 PM

Also, don't forget the issue of executive orders. One of the first things pro-abortion Bill Clinton did was to overturn the Reagan-Bush executive orders that put various restrictions on abortion where possible, such as in the military. Obama has also claimed that if elected, one of his first acts would be make partial-birth abortion legal again.
Besides, the Democrats would only make the economy worse. The idea that they would improve the economy is based on ideology, not facts. They would tax, tax, tax, which halts economic growth.

Calvin Dodge
October 2, 2008 9:23 PM

Planned Parenthood is a major part of the Democrat coalition, and it profits greatly from the abortion trade. PP is not simply pro-choice - witness its attempts to shut down crisis/caring pregnancy centers.

The Democrats are so pro-abortion that they once refused to allow one of their governors (Bob Casey) to speak at the national convention (because of his pro-life position), while inviting a pro-abortion Republican to speak there.


Obama:

1) Has told Planned Parenthood he will blow away all restrictions on abortions
2) Voted "no" on the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act" because he thought that might reflect badly on abortion
3) Voted "no" on an Illinois partial-birth abortion bill whose language was IDENTICAL to one which passed the Senate (with the vast majority of Democrats there voting "yes")
4) Has said the taxpayers should fund abortions (it's a basic fact of economics that when a service is subsidized, the use of that service increases)

So it's simply ludicrous to claim that Obama's plans and policies will cause a drop in the abortion rate.

Andrew Eppink
October 4, 2008 11:40 AM

Kmiec is duplicitous, would seem to have a hidden agenda, or is at least willfully ignorant, an improbable situation for a man as visible and educated as he is. And Cdl. Mahony, The Great Politician, acted entirely true to form in excoriating the dutiful priest. I wish I knew the priest's name. I'd thank him.
Kmiec's essay above seems like a Jerry Springer sob story.

Terry Karney
October 4, 2008 2:20 PM

Lorraine:

It's not true that Obama want's to tax the middle classes. His plan, compared to McCain's gives more money back to the middle classes. What he also does is reccomend a tax structure more like that of Eisenhower's administration. That is to say, a progressive one, which taxes those who get more (and the well to do get more from gov't than the less well to do, they just don't get it in direct handouts, but they get more police coverage, use more fire department resources when they need them [larger houses have bigger fires], they buy more, which uses more roads, etc.).

McCain/Obama Tax Plans

If you don't want to read the commentary, just scroll down to the graphic, see what you make, and see who is going to give you more money.

The idea that republicans are the party which is best for the economy is based on the ideology that doing things which are pro-business, and pro-rich people is good for the economy.

The facts, however, bear out the argument that Dems do better for the economy than the republicans, esp. for those who aren't rich (recall that McCain said rich starts at 5 million dollars).

Anyway, here's a link to some numbers, many of which counter the prevailing ideas (such as the Republicans are fiscally more responsible, reduce spending, have smaller governments). The trendlines go back decades, and smaller gov't, better spending and thrving economies are more often the fruit of democratic administrations.

Are you better off than you were eight years ago? Are your neighbors? Your neighborood?

The Comparative Record

Juststop
October 5, 2008 3:01 PM

Dear all,
Pro life should mean all life. The child, the pregnant mother, the citizens of foreign countries, and the people on death row. Thou shall not kill. There is no other statement after that. Killing is killing. The best way to reduce the number of abortions is to make birth control accessible and affordable to all. Teach teens the facts, give them all the informations they need to protect themselves from pregnancy and disease. Knowledge is power. Abstinence only education fails to acknowledge that people are not perfect, people will have sex(even young people and poor people). Even planned parenthood is too expensive of a place to go for birth control for most people. I found them to be too cost prohibitive for birth control and I am 45 years old. I also have a 13 year old daughter. I will never put her in the position to not have all the information she needs to protect her from pregnancy and disease. Pretending that teens won't have sex(I am teaching my child that she should wait until she is in a relationship with a very special person whom she feels she wants to spend the rest of her life)is irresponsible. I can teach her but I won't be there when she makes the decision to be intimate with someone(and we all know most of the time it really isn't a conscious decision but the heat of the moment where thinking is not what one is doing)therefore she has to be informed so that her life can be all she wants it to be. That to me is Pro-life.

Raymond Dunton
October 10, 2008 3:20 AM

I am an anti-abortion Christian that is going to vote for Obama. Why? Because when we select a candidate for president, I believe it is important to consider all of a candidates stands, not just one.

In regard to abortion, if the Republicans were as concerned about overturning Roe v Wade as they claim they are, why hasn't it been overturned by now? The GOP has been in control of the presidency 20 of the last 28 years. Don't you think that would have given them enough time to overturn it? Apparently, abortion isn't as important to most Republicans as they say it is during a campaign. In my opinion, most Republicans use this issue to get votes from the Christian right. Once they are elected though, they aren't as interested in Roe v Wade. I am sure there are some Christian Republicans that are truly interested in overturning Roe v Wade, but their definitely not the majority.

We are currently in a financial crisis that is only 2nd to the Great Depression. We need a president with a REAL economic plan. Since de-regulation (primarily Reublican idea) has primarily caused this disaster, maybe it is time to go in a new direction. Personally, I think the financial industry needs some regulations on it. A cap on the interest that people pay on their credit cards is a good start. Maybe we need to cap interest rates at 18% like an old law that Maine used to have. ATM fees are also a product of de-regulation. Many years ago, banks never charged YOU fees to withdraw YOUR money out of YOUR account.

De-regulation and trickle-down economics are both failures. In an altruistic world, they would both work. However, in reality, there is something that most people call GREED. That is why these policies DON'T work.

Obama doesn't have the solution for everything, but he does have some great ideas that will restore this country to it's former greatness.

Obama-Biden '08

Robin
October 13, 2008 11:30 PM

If you're an Evangelical, here are some points to consider:

1. Regarding the sanctity of infant life, it's the Bible-believing Christians who most vigorously oppose abortion. These same people, taking the Bible literally, will go to great lengths to rationalize passages like 1 Samuel 15:3, where it says God commanded Saul to totally destroy the wicked Amalekites, including their wicked little infants. I believe the Bible, and I love God (despite this passage -- I'm hoping He'll make things right in the end). But I think it's mixed up for us to presume we know what judgment the Almighty makes on abortion (which the Bible does not mention) while offering any theological justification for passages like this one. (See also Hosea 13:16).

2. God is more interested in changing hearts than in changing civil laws. If that weren't the case, Jesus would have repeatedly denounced corrupt Roman law & culture and made those things his central talking points. Homosexuality, infanticide, and a host of other evils were rampant in the Roman Empire. But read the Gospels and note what Jesus really focused on.

3. There's something seriously wrong in a society that demands abortion. It's a choice that indicates despair. But masking the symptom will not cure the disease. Promoting a more just society, in tune with Biblical calls for economic justice, will be a great step toward healing our land. The far-reaching impact will include a lower abortion rate, as people rediscover hope.

So my pro-life vote is for Obama, because I believe his priorities are appropriate and Biblical.

Chris
November 4, 2008 9:06 AM

I feel sorry for all those Christians that are going to vote for a man that is not only pro-abortion but is also going to deregulate abortion laws. One day, you will stand before God and have to answer, why you voted/put a man in power that allowed this. May God show his grace on you.

Laura
November 5, 2008 2:35 AM

Good! If birth control and sex education was readily available, people wouldn't have to get abortions. Its time for birth control to become affordable to all, prevention first. Juststop said it perfectly, tell people to not have sex and see how far that gets you, looks like Palin preaches that but couldn't practice it herself. Can we say hypocrite?

Christian Pro-Choice/Pro Women's Rights.
Obama 08'!! WE DID IT!!!

Del
November 5, 2008 11:54 AM

My husband and I work with inner-city youth and I can tell you that teenagers are not getting abortions due to financial hardship. In fact many have kids for the government paycheck, it's their type of employment. The reason kids are are getting pregnant is because they are taught that it is the normal process of adolescence, because older men-allowed by their mothers-come into their homes and pressure them into sexual relationships. It's a generational normalcy, it's even cool, and a sign of "maturity". So Obama wants to relieve economic hardship. Great! Do that by creating jobs and opportunities for the people to be responsible, empowered, educated...and not by giving hand outs. Do we really think that more money and programs will solve this problem. Does money change the hearts and impulses of men? Does money stop ignorant youth from lusting and performing in sexual relationship out of the context of marriage? Does money teach our youth what true sexuality was created for and who it was created by? Is money and government more powerful than God. We are not discerning what the true cause and true solutions are to our current national problems. If a woman decides to have sex, she also must decide that she may produce life and take that responsibility on herself. Like I said-more government will never change the hearts and habits of man. We the people, make up this nation. We choose what our nation looks like by the lives we live. Everyone wants to blame someone else and put that responsibility on the government. But no one wants to change their own lives filled with greed, consumerism, lust, and hatred. Only Jesus Christ, who has the power to transform hearts and habits can produce solutions for this nation. Until we return to our Savior and Creator who has all the solutions, we will never change our current condition.

James in San Luis Obispo
November 24, 2008 6:10 PM

Obama: more Pro-Life that the Republicans

Maybe someone can explain to me, but I was wondering why Pres Bush and the national Republican leadership get all this praise for being pro-life, yet in the past 8 years, what have they really accomplished in terms of advancing the pro-life agenda in the US?

+ capital punishment - expanded

+ war - Lets start by counting the 45,000 dead Iraqi civilians. No he didnt kill them but he intentionally opened a pandoras box. Nuf said.

+ embryonic stem cell research - very confusing: its ok to destroy some embryos but not others?

+ Roe v Wade? - unchanged and unchallenged

+ Judicial appointments - except for the Supreme Court, they are irrelevant to life issues

+ resources for crisis pregnancy? - dramatically reduced

+ health insurance for children of unwed mothers? - nothing changed

+ pro-life public service advertising (like the anti-tobacco initiatives) - never happened

+ corporal acts of mercy - dramatically reduced

+ immigration – hopes of reform dashed by the Republicans themselves

The American pro-life movement had such a wonderful opportunity from 2000 - 2008 with Republican control over all three branches of the federal government and most state governments -- assuming Pres Bush and the Republicans were really interested in Pro-Life issues. Even after 2006, there were so many things Pres Bush could have done by executive order but he chose to not do anything significant.

It seems to me that Pres Bush and the Republicans are really pro-choice: they exercised their 'freedom of choice:' by choosing to do nothing about pro-life issues when they had the chance. Before 2000, cold January after January we were told ‘we’ll do something once we are in power.’ Since 2000 the story was 'next year we'll do something...'

Both sides have allowed millions of abortions to occur unabated. One side lied about their true intentions.

It looks to me that Pres-elect Obama and the Democratic party leaders in Congress are at least honest enough to say they won't do anything to bar abortions, but they are committed to doing something to reduce the number of abortions. And they are definitely more in line with the balance of the pro-life world view on issues of war, death penalty, torture and corporal acts of mercy at home and abroad.

That’s why, in my view, Mr Obama may well be our first Pro-Life President.

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