Steven Waldman

Gay Marriage & Newsweek's Hail Mary

Thursday December 11, 2008

What struck me reading Newsweek's unusual cover story -- "the Religious Case for Gay Marriage" -- is not what it says about gay rights but what it says about the economics of newsmagazines. I worked at Newsweek as National...
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Larry Parker
December 11, 2008 1:23 PM
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Didn't I just read that Newsweek is dramatically reducing its print copy run each week (by more than half)? I guess they're trying to drive out the Religious Right readers first ...

Jokes aside, even though I'm theologically more on Miller's and Meacham's side (though certainly not to their extreme), you have a great point, Steve -- journalistically this is all very strange, even bizarre.

Julia
December 11, 2008 5:57 PM

Most companies with print news are having financial problems. The Internet and cable TV are the main source of information for many.

Mike Huckabee was on Jon Stewart's show a couple days again. They had an interesting conversation about homosexual marriage.

It is Huckabee video #2 online at thedailyshow dot com

Your Name
December 12, 2008 12:03 PM

"this conservative resort to biblical authority is the worst kind of fundamentalism."

That's correct. It's called selective fundamentalism. They always ignore the passages they don't like. I mean, we no longer put the victims of incest to death, do we? Nor stone our disobedient children. Etcetera.

"This argument from Scripture is dirfficult to take seriously--though many, many people do--since the passages in question are part and parcel of texts that, with equal ferocity, forbid particular haircuts."

Not to mention the eating of shrimp and lobster as "an abomination". Or the denial of communion to the disabled.

"He predicts that "history and demographics are on the side of those who favor inclusion over exclusion."

And he's right, too. Used to be a time when God's love was for all people, no exceptions, not even the kweers.

Beiseds, since when is "sin" a disqualifier for marriage? Aren't we all "sinners"? How come we let the adultereers, the thieves, the liars, heck even the murderers marry? Why focus in on the homos?

Francis Beckwith
December 12, 2008 12:27 PM
http://francisbeckwith.com

Here's the email I sent to Jon Meacham yesterday:

11 December 2008

Mr. Jon Meacham
Editor
Newsweek Magazine
New York, NY

Dear Mr. Meacham:

Several years ago you spoke at Baylor University, where I am on the faculty. You gave an outstanding lecture on the relationship between Winston Churchill and Franklin Roosevelt. It was a wonderful talk that my wife and I enjoyed tremendously. After the lecture, you graciously signed a copy of your book, inscribing it to my father-in-law, a veteran of the Second World War. You struck us as a man of intellectual and journalistic integrity, even though we suspected that our politics was not yours.

For this reason, I was so disappointed to read your editorial as well as Lisa Miller’s article on same-sex marriage and the Bible in the recent issue of Newsweek. Her article is one of the most superficial and poorly-reasoned pieces on the Bible and moral theology that I have ever read. Like many Christian academics committed to traditional marriage as well as conservative positions on other social issues, I have grown both accustomed to and weary of this sort of agenda-driven drivel that tries to pass itself off as “religious news” in the mainstream media. For someone who has published scads of academic books and articles on many of these issues, I just roll my eyes in disgust. I used to roll my eyes in amazement, but I am well past that. I have come to the conclusion that the reason why I, and my like-minded and well-credentialed academic friends, never receive phone calls or inquiries about our opinions is that our presence as quoted experts in Newsweek or other similar publications would be inconsistent with the narrative you and others want to sustain, namely, that only stupid, uneducated, fundamentalists can embrace these views; no one who is educated, intelligent, articulate, or attractive could possibly do so. Your prefatory editorial to Ms. Miller’s article was unusually candid in admitting your commitment to that narrative.

Sincerely,
Frank Beckwith
--
Francis J. Beckwith, MJS, PhD
Professor of Philosophy and Church-State Studies, Department of Philosophy
Fellow and Faculty Associate, Institute for the Studies of Religion
Baylor University
2008-2009 Mary Ann Remick Senior Visiting Fellow, Center for Ethics & Culture
University of Notre Dame
http://francisbeckwith.com I http://returntorome.com
---


Joe
December 12, 2008 4:57 PM

Old testament laws are divided into three groupings; God's moral law forever unchanging. Jewish ceremonial law, applicable only to the Jewish religion and replaced by New Testament grace for Christian believers and civil law, ordinances to govern a new Jewish nation-state, appropriate for that particular time and place. To toss around bits and pieces of scripture to validate one's own viewpoint shows either a profound ignorance bathed in arrogance or deliberate misrepresentation.

Your Name
December 13, 2008 10:14 AM

"To toss around bits and pieces of scripture to validate one's own viewpoint shows either a profound ignorance bathed in arrogance or deliberate misrepresentation."

And yet this is precisely what fundagelicals do all the time.

Daniel
December 13, 2008 2:54 PM

This is the most cogent argument I've seen about the journalism aspect of the article. I had checked out Terry Mattingly's site, GetReligion, which has an slmost inoherent argument about the article, full of snark and ideological red meat but without much substance.

I think there is a conceit that's acknowledged from the beginning that it is not meant to be an AP wire story on religion and gay marriage, but I understand it's seen as a departure from what Newsweek usually does. I'm not sure that's completely true,

As you point out, the author makes some legitimate points. And it's also true that the "traditional" argument against SSM--and the accompanying rhetoric--is also well known that most people can recite it off the top of their head.

Howard Wilson
December 13, 2008 4:26 PM

The two major American newsmagazines that I read, Time and Newsweek, have changed from providing news reportage coupled with a few op-ed pieces to topical magazines filled with little substance. This weekend's Time magazine is primarily a collection of year-end lists, while last week's Newsweek demonstrates that magazine's three obsessions--Obama, sex, and health care. It's become obvious that Big Pharma provides more and more of their revenue stream--both magazines run frequent "Your Health" sections, full of glossy ads for new drugs, followed by a page or two of caveats in fine print about why this drug might not be good for you after all.

Your statement about Newsweek's comment about "What--have 100,000 readers" is probably not true--there probably are fewer than 100,000 people who actually read it, along with one million "glancers"--people who flick through the magazine, reading short squibs. I confess that I'm one of them. I do READ the Economist, too--their book reviews are more often more cogent than the NYT or NYRB, and their news reportage is pithy and informative. Time and Newsweek have become the equivalent of USA Today amongst magazines--oriented towards those with short attention spans and small abilities to concentrate. Unfortunately, my local paper, the LA Times, is suffering from the decline of revenues for print--they used to have a great religion editor, but now the religion pieces are few and far between.

Speaking as one of the evangelicals maligned above, we don't build our position on sexuality primarily from the references in Leviticus, but rather from the specific teachings of the New Testament as well as its message of love, peace, and justice. And, I do love a good shrimp cocktail but still supported Prop 8.

Keep up the great work--I met you this year when you spoke at Fuller.

Your Name
December 15, 2008 10:05 AM

If you "do love a good shrimp cocktail", you have committed an "abomination" just as surely as God's gay and lesbian children do when they express their love in physical intimacy. Per Leviticus, anyway.

As the fundies like to yell at me, "SINNER!".

balde
December 16, 2008 10:14 AM

I am not a reader but the front cover is a bold statement that i believe has fueled the movement of gays' rebellious beliefs that God will accept anyone as they are. Whether a person who does not understand what God's grace is or addicted to a lifestyle of selfishness and believes he is justified is the view of every person at one point. It is not the job of the church to convict but that of the Holy Spirit that justifies God's perfect will.

Henrietta22
December 27, 2008 6:08 PM

I liked Newsweeks handling of the subject, and actually having an opinion, instead of presenting the arguments, that we already know very well. As far as selfishness ascribed to GLBT for being born and trying to live who they are as all of us heterosexuals are allowed to do; the opposition should look in the mirror and recognize their own selfishness, and lack of understanding, or even trying to understand. Talk about it, don't preach sermons where none are needed. Read what the Medical Societies say about the GLBT. Bring science into your lives bible literalists, it won't bite.

Your Name
March 12, 2009 10:07 AM

"the front cover is a bold statement that i believe has fueled the movement of gays' rebellious beliefs that God will accept anyone as they are. Whether a person who does not understand what God's grace is or addicted to a lifestyle of selfishness"

balde, it is not a "rebelious belief"; it is God's promise. "Just As I Am" remains a pertinent hymn.

Your reducing gay couples' committed, loving, consenting adult relationships to nothinng more than an addiction to a "lifestyle" (whatever that is) of "selfishness" is a typical of the 'right'. People who actually know such gay couples know that you are simply wrong, nevermnind mean-spirited, uncharitable and the bearer of false witness (which is, you seem to need reminding, a sin).

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