I think it is a little more than disagreeing with Warren. He has disparaged and insulted the GLBT, and their Mothers, Fathers, Sisters, Brothers, Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Grandparents, and friends. Any one who would hurt so many families does not come and stand on the “citizens porch”, and give a prayer. He should apologize to all the people he has hurt over all his years, and then pray. If he doesn’t, what good are his prayers in the benediction?

They’re Only Jews Anyways
Who cares if Rick Warren is a member of the NAZI party?
What’s it matter to you?
They are only Jews anyways…
Do you know what I mean?
We’re racially superior to them
and I doubt that all this “Adolf talk” will amount to anything anyways…
I see no reason why Barack Obama should worry about the Jews.
The Jews only make up a fraction of the population
and I think it’s about time to put them in their rightful place.
There’s only one solution to Rick Warren’s “Jewish Problem”
and that’s the final solution.

Forgot, again.

Sam, it doesn’t matter if the Bible is “God’s word” or not when it comes to secular laws governing civil marriage. Not in a land that ‘promises’ freedom of religion to all citizens. We don’t have to believe what you believe to be treated equally before the law.
“we are able to believe this way and still love gay people.
Sorry Sam, but comparing gay marriage to pedophilia is not loving – far from it. It’s a vile, hateful lie – aka, the bearing of false witness about God’s gay and lesbian chldren – aka, a sin.
“In fact, we are not the hate-mongers that people have made us out to be.”
I disagree. Your side always makes comparisons like incest and pedophilia, not to mention “marrying a plant” (or an “orange” or a “rock” or a “bicycle” or a “child”), “worse than terrorists”, “cannibals”, “beastialists”, “necrophilacs”, “rapists”, a “cancer”, “Satan’s minons”, Sons of Molech”.
Literally, ALL of these things have been said, continue to be said, are allowed/encouraged to be said on many blogs, even right here on Beliefnet (much to its eternal shame).
These are NOT ‘loving’ things, Sam. They are hateful lies. They are un-charitable untruths, spread to vilify, diminish, demean, debase and denigrate gay American citizens. If they aren’t perfect examples of hate-mongering, I do not know what is.
“We just believe marriage has a certain definition, and we are trying to protect it.”
You seem to be wanting to “protect” a definition and seem to care little about the actual institution of marriage itself. Christ said divorce was not to be permitted, yet you allow it.
If you want to “protect” marriage, go “protect” it from Britney Spears and her type of 55-hour “marriage”. Go “protect” it from Darva Conger and Rick Rockwell who turned marriage into a TV game show prize. Go “protect” it from Mickey Rooney and his eight “marriages”. Go “protect” it from drunks in Las Vegas who get “married” to a stranger (albeit still legally) on a whim.
I would assure you (but it seems your side can’t be assured) that marriage is not under attack from committed, loving, human (awful that we have to even bother to include that on this site), consenting, adult, same-sex couples.

Here’s something Christians may not disagree on. Jesus condemns divorce. It’s a sin against God to bear false witness against one’s neighbor. Rick Warren not only bears false witness by labeling same-sex married couples as “pedophiles”, but is now one who seeks to have the State of California forcefully annul 18,000 marriages – many, if not most, of these marriages were performed in a religious ceremony as a covenant before God. Not only has Warren and his self-identified “Christian” cohorts committed grave sins against God, but they revel in the fact that they are able to hurt families and persecute lesbian and gay Christians in the name of Christ. God makes the rain fall on the just and unjust alike, and we are to pray for and love our enemies. But the gravity with which Warren and his ilk has sullied the name of God must be considered by all true followers of Jesus. Those who do not speak out against this evil or who excuse the sins of Warren, will be judged by God as if they themselves had committed the sins. I pray that God has mercy on them.

Jesus sat down with sinners and Pharisees — and he condemned them. He didn’t put them on pedestals, and he certainly didn’t do it at the expense of the faithful. Obama is no Jesus. He has raised up the Pharisee and trampled the believers. Shame on him.
The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

Perhaps we need to keep a God’s-eye view on this. After all, as much as we may disagree with Warren on this issue, he is still part of the same Kingdom of God that we belong to. There is room in God’s kingdom for all the reactions we are having to this issue. And none of this has derailed Christ from his reconciling work here on earth. Let’s not let it derail us either.

President-Elect Obama is delivering on a promise: inclusion.
Inclusion is not limited to those with whom we agree, it is inclusive of us all. I am not gay and I am not a fundamentalist Christian, but welcome to them both.
And, inclusion accomplishes a most critical societal task of enabling dialogue, discussion and change. Obama can accelerate this natural, cultural and social evolution by focusing attention and creating “teachable moments.”
A long time ago, I stood up for equal rights for blacks. And, at the same time, I was not comfortable with interracial dating or marriage (I was just a teenager.) In the dialogue that was opened in the 1960s, I experienced my own “teachable moments” and evolved to my present view that the more everyone intermarries, the better for us all. “… content of character, not color…” and so forth.
With gay people, I have been experiencing a similar evolution, mostly at the proding of my kids. I presume to say that we all are moving in the right direction, equality, though such cultural and social changes sometimes seem to be glacial in their pace.
Obama’s inclusion of Rick Warren and those who follow Warren is a good step in the right direction. Inclusion and focus will bring inevitable progress.

I fail to see what all the uproar is about. Christianity, Islam and Judaism says about the same thing about homosexual practice. I understand the point of view of those who do not believe in God; but from those who call themselves Christians, specifically the clergy, how do you interpret the scriptures pertaining to homosexuality and why? I would like to have where you are coming from as it pertains to scripture included with your opinion. This pertains to preachers and teachers. And to Renita Weems, sometimes it is the tone of the speech that detracts from the message.

I personally don’t see what the big deal is. If I’m not mistaken, it is up to Obama to choose exactly who he wants to perform his inauguration. Frankly, as someone who is both pro-choice and pro-gay marriage, I don’t understand why these groups are wasting precious energy worrying about some pastor! Does the pro-choice community not realize that Bush has just made it legal for pro-life health practitioners not to provide information to pregnant women about abortion? Not only that, but they can extend the definition of abortion to include birth control – and refuse to distribute it or even refer a patient to someone who can provide them with birth control! Does the pro-gay marriage community not realize that there are people trying to annull legal gay marriages in California? And we’re worried about some pastor we don’t agree with? Obama ran on the premise of uniting America. His pick shouldn’t shock anyone.
There are bigger things to worry about than who Obama chooses to do his inauguration. Just sayin’.

After all the smoke clears you either hold to what scripture says about homosexual behavior or you reject it and take guidance from your own moral compass.
Just remember “A human heart is more dishonest than anything else. It can’t be healed. Who can understand it?
Where is your moral compass?

Hey, I personally think that Pastor Rick Warren is the greatest choice of spritual blessing that anyone could pick. I went to his church for years and have the highest respect for his wisdom, his fellowship and his relationship to God.