Steven Waldman

Should Bristol Palin Have Put the Baby Up for Adoption?

Thursday March 12, 2009

In response to my post asking whether Bristol Palin should have considered putting the baby up for adoption, Gerard Nadal writes in the comment box:

The Palins are an intact intergenerational family of some means who welcome their newest member. It does not seem that there is any reason for Todd and Sarah to want to give away their first grandchild. They have education, money, a large home, relatives and friends to help the young mother. Adoption is not necessary. I suppose that if they did attempt to do so, then you would be chortling about their hypocrisy on family values. Is that what you are angling for on this thread? A trap for conservatives?


Using your standard, what would you advocate for the 70% of African American babies born today? That 70% are born to young (mostly teen) mothers with 1/4 of Bristol's literacy and none of her financial or familial resources. There is no realistic option for marriage and family life for these girls either. If you are advocating adoption for Bristol's child, what do you have to say to the African American community? Bring back the orphanages?

Yes, this thread is "a trap" for conservatives! I can't believe you found me out!

Seriously, I don't know when adoption is the right approach and I'm not trying to cast aspersions at Bristol's suitability. But it seems that a decent argument can be made that when you have someone who is a) unmarried and b) a teenager, that those would be the circumstances in which putting a child up for adoption ought to be considered. So yes, I would ask the same question about African American unwed teen mothers, too.

Your argument is that it's ok in this case because of the extended family. I admit that's a mitigating circumstance. It's hard to imagine Trigg is going to starve. But many African American teen moms point to the involvement of grandparents in explaining why they can handle it. And Murphy Brown defenders explained that, as an affluent career woman, she'd be fully capable of caring for a baby on her own.

I dunno. I was with Dan Quayle on that one.

This is a tough, personal call. The guy in the White House seems to have done fine as the child of a single mother largely raised by his grandparents.

But I do think it's appropriate for would-be grandparents or society in general to express an opinion about when a teen mom is better off putting up a child for adoption.

What do you think? If you were a grandparent, or friend, under what circumstances would you recommend that a teen mom put the baby up for adoption rather than raising him or her?

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panthera
March 15, 2009 10:20 AM

Gerard,
Thanks for the link - I recall reading it a very long time ago and thinking it was a classic example of trying to square the circle, even in those days.

Of course the Church is right in condemning violence against us, and it is a serious failing that so many of the Catholics here actively incite such violence.

The main problem I had back then and still have today with 'Cardinal' Ratzinger's position is the argumentation he presents, which was basically the same argumentation we heard several hundred years ago on similar findings of the natural sciences - that the science is certainly accurate, but irrelevant.

Now that many decades have passed since homosexuality was removed from the list of mental illnesses in virtually all civilized countries (the position of conservative Christians is, today, only otherwise to be found in the most extreme forms of Islam) and given the fairly recent findings (which have now been independently repeated) that there is a genetic advantage arising from homosexuality, to whit more children survive to adulthood in families which have a strain of male homosexuality than in families which do not have homosexual male offspring, it is time for the church to reconsider the position that homosexuality is intrinsically disordered.

Our love is valid, it is also socially of value in the Darwinian sense. Clearly, this was not yet conclusive in 1975, tho' even then there was enough evidence for the Church to have moved beyond her position.

Ultimately, I suppose it comes down to the old conflict between the mindset which led to forbidding priests to marry (and we have all seen the disastrous consequences of that) and the willingness to accept that our progress in the natural sciences forces us to reappraise our interpretation of the Bible and God's will.

Logically, it is just not possible to argue for denying me and other homosexuals a loving relationship on the basis of such love not fruiting in new children. One can twist it, fold, staple and otherwise try, but were the Church to truly hold this position consequently, then all marriages between a man and woman who are incapable of bearing children would be annulled. The fact that the church does not makes clear that this position is untenable.

Now, the whole sterilization problem is one which should not be approached without serious consideration. Certainly, a child in your son's position has every right to expect and, I surely hope, to find a partner who will spend their life with him. Nothing you have written would indicate that his offspring would be likely to suffer pain or such disability as to make their lives a living hell.

My grand-nephews and nieces are, however, barely able to survive and could not without the considerable resources my parents invest in their care. We needn't go into the statistics, theoretically their conditions could be weeded out through current or soon to be realized genetic screening. But there it is - how many fetuses do we abort before we finally get one which is going to have a life without pain? This assuming they are even capable of making such decisions, which at this point I doubt. Political correctness aside, the only reason these kids aren't institutionalized is because we can invest thousands upon thousands of dollars into their home care every month. I don't mind, my parents see it as a family responsibility...but the day will never come when they can live independently. The hämophilia in the boys has other consequences, as you no doubt know.

But heh - the question for me is, why isn't Levi permitted a larger role in the raising of his own child? Here in my country, the first time that Palin brat turned him away at the door without good reason, she would have been hauled into court where the judge would have forced her to recognize his rights...and responsibilities. A very strange system in America.

Gerard Nadal
March 16, 2009 2:46 AM

Panthera,

A very strange system in America indeed. I suppose that if fathers have no right to save their offspring in abortion, then the rest follows suit. We bemoan young men paying young women canine courtesies and then leaving town and the young woman to raise the child alone, but spurn the young man who dares demand a share in the raising of the child. It's sick and twisted. It's America in the 21 st Century.

As for the Church and homosexuality, I suspect more than a few Popes and Cardinals may be surprised at who their neighbors are in Heaven.

For your family, I trust that we are not so far away from Molecular Biology providing a cure for hemophilia. Certainly within one more generation. I thank you for this warm and revealing exchange. Not so long ago I commented to Sigaliris that if we could all come together for a night in Little Italy over mounds of pasta and great wine, we would all leave as fast friends. Most people here are not only looking to opine, but searching. I care less for the philosophy and ideology than I do the person behind it all. The boilerplate is boring on a good day.

Beyond the understandable hurt you've experienced Panthera, I have come to see an extremely good and honorable man. Whatever the positions we stake out on other threads, know that I have the deepest respect for you and that no conflict of principles can diminish that respect.

God Bless.

panthera
March 16, 2009 9:29 AM

Same for me Gerard, same for me. Deepest respect.

You, sigilaris and a few others here soar so far above me it is humbling and challenging.

Right now, real Italy is closer by far than Little Italy, but I'd take either, my driveway is completely under a thick sheet of snow and ice.

Ick.

Cassie Cole
March 24, 2009 5:43 PM

Personally, I think it is completely inappropriate to even have this debate in this forum as if we have any bearing on Bristol's choices whatsoever--as if any of our opinions ought to matter! No matter how much we love speculating about these poor people, we do not know them, we do not understand how their family works, we do not know what kind of environment this baby will grow up in. Adoption is not the easy alternative that it is painted out to be! I am not condemning it, of course; but it isn't a simple default solution for anyone larger society deems incapable of raising a child properly. Seriously people, the other parent is around, she has the support of her family, she has means. Why is her unmarried status automatically reason to give the baby up?

Can't Say
April 6, 2009 1:41 PM

I want to say that I am an adoptive mother. My husband and I decided not to try infertility options and instead adopted two children (full siblings 1 and 3 yo) who needed homes.
My kids are wonderful. They do not have behavior problems, aren't on any meds and don't have any abuse issues. They are A or honor role students who play in the band and the orchestra and they both excel at soccer. They are in middle school and are both happy and well adjusted.
But I am here to tell you all. Adoption as an option sucks. It is truly a "least bad" option. If their is any way to possibly keep mother and baby together- do it. Even it means community college instead of Harvard or three to a bedroom- keep them together.
It breaks my heart to see the gaping hole in my children's soul. The knowledge that you were given away by the person who should love you most wounds and scars children. Knowing that they are not living in the world with the family God put them with, wounds children. Don't take the idea of adoption lightly. It is a wrenching process that constantly rips open and re-scars. I think adoption is better than abortion- but not by much. We need to work harder to remove the stigma and keep mothers and babies together. A decade later- that kid will thank you.

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