Steven Waldman

Obama's "Christian Nation" Comments & the Myth of the Judeo-Christian Heritage

Tuesday April 7, 2009

In a press conference in Turkey, President Obama said, "One of the great strengths of the United States is ... we have a very large Christian population -- we do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation. We consider ourselves a nation of citizens who are bound by ideals and a set of values."

On CNN, Republican activist Frank Donatelli of Gopac, came up with a creative interpretation of Obama's comments. "For the President to deny that our country is informed by Judeo-Christian values.... The better answer would have been to say that we are a nation that considers itself a product of the Judeo Christian tradition because that happens to be accurate."

Wolf Blitzer suggested that Obama was "trying to underscore...that there should be a separation of chuch and state," to which Donatelli said, "the fact that the president has to appear to apologize for us on that basis seems to me to be ridiculous."

Let's put aside for now the fact Obama didn't "apologize for us" or "deny that our country is informed by Judeo-Christian values." (Donatelli just made that up).

I want to unpack this phrase Judeo-Christian heritage, which is both empty and wrong.

Sure, we were deeply influenced by some Biblical principles. The idea that we had immutable rights to liberty -- that couldn't be taken away by a King or a parliament -- came from a religious conception of man as created in God's image. Those rights were, therefore, "endowed by our Creator."

But the construction of our government was also influenced by Rome, and yet we don't talk about being influenced by the Zeusian-Ceasarian heritage. Locke and Montesquieu influence the Founders views greatly yet we don't applaud our Anglo-French Heritage. Obviously some folks focus on the Christian influences in the hope that it can ward off either pure religious pluralism, secularism or excessive separation of church and state.

Nonetheless, let's go further and posit that of the many influences on our nation, religion was one of the most important.

But "Judeo-Christian"? Nuh uh. First of all, the Judeos were not really at the table. As of the Constitution's ratification, most American states didn't allow Jews to hold office.

Second, the religious tradition that influenced the American founding was not Christianity in general but Protestantism in particular -- often in fervent opposition to Catholicism. Many of those who settled America did so to prevent the spread of Catholicism. Patriots used anti-Catholic sentiment to fuel the American revolution. Beloved Founding Fathers like John Adams espoused openly anti-Catholic views.

If we're going to talk about the important religious influences of the Founding Era we should be referring to our "Protestant heritage," which was quite significant, not our Judeo-Christian heritage. Perhaps that locution won't go over that well with the one third of American Chrsitians who are Catholic but that's what would be accurate.


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pagansister
April 7, 2009 7:28 PM

As sad as it might make a few folks...or even a lot of folks, this country isn't a "Christian" nation. It is indeed made up of all religions, and those who are not at all religious. We are fortunate that this is the case, and we are not bound to only one "official" state religion as are many countries.

Michael
April 8, 2009 10:25 AM

The United States was founded by people who were dominantly influenced by a Judeo-Christian world view. This is not to say that all were Christian. To deny this reality flys in the face of the reams of documents our founding fathers left to explain "what they meant". Every person in this country operates on some world view or philosophy whether they can articulate it or not. I would posit that most world views held by the US are a hodge podge of philosophies dominately influenced by entertainment, media, and familial background. To say that the US is not a Christian nation is probably true. In the name of pluralism and "freedom" we have killed 40 million children, trade spouses like t-shirts, glorify hedonistic life styles, yada, yada, yada. Sadly, we aren't following a lot Christian based morals and life tenets.

AM I A HINDU? Best Seller
April 8, 2009 12:40 PM

Obama is right.

Just like India is NOT a Hindu nation; America is NOT a Christian nation.

In India, even an atheist has the right to condemn Hinduism in public and still say he or she is a Hindu.

Of course just like laws in India are influenced by Hindu Culture; Similarly the laws in America are influenced by Judeo Christian culture.

IN GOD WE TRUST does not mean any particular God, but UNIVERSAL GOD which or who is the God of the whole universe.

At least 9 FOUNDING FATHERS were Free Masons and Masons believe in ONE and ONLY UNIVERSAL GOD.

Beauty of America is its diversity and people of all faiths and NO faith can love each and other and live in peace.

Justin Bentley
April 12, 2009 10:27 AM

Why is America screwed? We can't decide who the hell we are that's why! At what point do we have no rules because they may offend one of the 40 religions we supposedly represent? What do we do when these religions are anti-war? Do we now revoke any drafting so as to not offend? What if a religion is anti-taxes? Do we not tax so as to not offend?

The bottom line is America is currently a compilation of many religions, ideas, and values and has no spine or foundation.

Any group with no foundation will fall apart. You can't have a small group, meeting, company, family, etc without one underlying strong belief that will hold the group together. Unfortunately, the government along with it's people have become ignorant and spineless.

Abraham Lincoln paraphrased a line from the Bible, one of the most famous maybe- "A nation divided amongst itself cannot stand". Has i t not become a "no-brainer" that we are one hell of a divided natiion???

David
May 17, 2009 4:45 PM

Good posting, Steven!

The founders might have been mostly protestants (with some deists) but that does not make it a Christian nation. It *might* be a majority-Christian nation (depending on how you define Christian) but there are plenty of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Zoroastrians, Scientologists, and various other groups whose names I do not know.

Why is it the only time you ever see the term "Judeo-Christian" is is when evangelicals want to justify calling this a Christian nation? The rest of the time, Jews are just people they want to convert or worse.

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