That Report on Right Wing Extremism -- Still a Fantasy? (Holocaust Museum Shooting)

r. wainwright,

Always impressive to see a moderate Nazi posting online. Usually, Nazis are always screaming and ranting to promote their hatred. You, on the other hand, appear to be very calm and collected to try to make your hatred more palpable, I dare say?

Let's try to guess what you mean by your unsaid implications, shall we? Oh, I'll take a few random chances:

1) You think everyone is tired of hearing about the Holocaust. You probably really don't think it actually happened anyway, and if it did you really couldn't care less.

2) You like to have more "debate" and "inquiry" because you think the Holocaust is basically made up. Again, you are probably loathe to admit any of it - maybe you think a few thousand died and "that's about all".

3) You mention "war crimes" perpetrated by the Allies. I assume you mean more than Dresden, although that has probably been one of your biggest rallying cries for you and your buddies since a while. No, you want to "expose" more. My guess is that you think more declassified documents "prove" some sort of "Jewish cabal" which started a war against Hitler, or some such nonsense? They were fabricated, you say? "Must have been the Jews", I hear you thinking out loud.

So nice of you to try playing the reasonability game, little Nazi. Perhaps you'll have better luck next time.

And there they are - Amber and r.wainwright. Defending the indefensible.

Amber, at the time your comment was posted, we already knew this man's political affiliations, his previous terrorist undertakings, his publications, and public statements.

Nobody was in doubt at the time of your posting which side of the political aisle he came from.

He was not shy about his purpose, and he made great use of modern technology to inform the world of his intent.

You simply don't want to accept it. A game you've played here before.

It works when the subject is the number of angels dancing on head's of pins. It doesn't when we have the footage of the guard being murdered in cold blood, preventing even worse.

r.wainright,

I have spoken to many Germans and Dutch who were alive during the era of 1933-1945. Many of them were and still are very much aligned with the general policies of the National Socialists. None of them, not one, denies the truth about the death camps. None of them denies the genocide committed upon the Jews. The imposed wearing of pink and yellow stars. The denunciations and subsequent summary executions of homosexuals. I personally knew a woman who was incarcerated in Dachau because of her deeply-felt Christian beliefs.

No one denies that the UK and the US let the NAZIs gain power in Germany because of a deeply held antisemitism. No one denies that the reparations demanded of Germany after WWI created an ideal breeding ground for the political extremest parties - Germany could just as easily have swung to the communists.

This has nothing to do with the fact, proved, documented, recorded that over six million Jews were murdered by the Nazis. At least 10 million people were put to death directly because of their race, ethnicity, sexual orientation or Christian beliefs. Because they suffered mental or physical impairments. Because their parents were not willing to cooperate and thus "examples" were needed.

If your motivations are those of a racial supremacist, by all means be open and honest about it. We have enough hateful people here pretending that denying gays the right to marriage is done out of "love". Instead of false witness, tell the truth.

Better yet, get thee over to crunchycon. Rod Dreher welcomes racists and white supremacists with open arms on his blog.

A nut is a nut and has every right to be a nut, but when you refuse to label a nut as such instead identifing them as victims, patriots, etc. you lose credibility whemn they do something nutty.