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Sticks & Stones May Break Bones, But Words... Can Raise A Shotgun?

Tuesday June 2, 2009

Categories: Current Events
I can't stop thinking about the murder of George Tiller. I can't stop thinking about it because it is - as I said the other day - just so horrible. And I can't stop thinking about it because I wonder,...
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Selkie1970
June 2, 2009 1:20 PM

I think that extremists of any type will view any statement in the light of their extremism. In the past eight years, the West generally has gone to great lengths to separate the religion of Islam from what happened on 9/11 even though many, not most, Muslims do not find the actions of those terrorists deplorable. (That may be an incoherent statement, I am typing with one hand as I sit here and nurse my baby. My brain is moving faster than my hand.)

There are people who are prone to violence in every "movement" that there is. I really don't see how anyone can think that the mainstream prolife movement is inciting anyone. I mean, there are loud protests every time there is an execution in this country. And the protesters call the executioners "murderers". No one thinks that those protesters are inciting violence.

Abortion, I think, is unique among other political issues, because there is so much emotion involved. There are very few, if any, women for whom abortion is a painless decision. And many remain highly conflicted about their decision. But just because I believe that an unborn baby's life outweighs her mother's choice does NOT mean that I am guilty of hate. And just because there are hateful people who have anti-abortion views, does not mean that the movement is hateful.

There is no legitimate argument that killing Tiller, ESPECIALLY in church, is justifiable, much less right. It is horrible, for everyone.

genek
June 2, 2009 4:14 PM

Nobody calmly expressing the view that abortion is wrong and should be illegal would expect to be blamed for a nutcase deciding to commit murder. O'Reilly's statement, "I knew we would be blamed for this," is as good an admission as any that he was aware that his way of condemning abortion doctors in general and Tiller in particular would eventually incite some nutcase to act as this one did.

Nobody who states their opposition to abortion and their belief that it should not be legal should be seen as being in any way responsible for Tiller's death; O'Reilly and those who attack in the same manner as he does should be.

Michelle
June 2, 2009 8:57 PM
http://michellesamom.blogspot.com

I don't think you can call what has happened to the issue of abortion in the United States a debate. I'm hard pressed to find an anti-abortion organization (and I'm not talking about religious organizations that ALSO happen to be anti-abortion, I'm talking about groups whose sole purpose is to oppose abortion) that doesn't use horrific tactics including intimidation, stalking, violence, vandalism, destruction of property and hate speech to terrorize women, doctors and clinic workers (and anyone who supports or knows them). I think it's pretty clear that these actions incite people to violence and yes, sometimes murder.
I've had many interesting discussions about the subject with people who feel differently than I do. I have no problem with discussion and debate. However, when anti-abortionists organize into groups like Operation Rescue, they (more often than not) become bullies and yes, terrorists. It's not just Bill O'Reilly (though I find his "I'm the victim" rhetoric disgusting), that's too easy and simplifies the issue. It's all of the organizations who feel it's their right to use these kinds of intimidation and call it "free speech". It's shameful and not at all conducive to discussion... though why anyone thinks they have the right to discuss my medical decisions is beyond me.

Your Name
June 3, 2009 5:46 AM

I'm not going to claim to know what I'm saying, I'm writing this off the cuff.

However, I have to wonder at something.

Osama Ben Laden and Bill O'Reilly.

What's the difference?

Both of them use language that appeals to radicals and extremists that leads to terrorism and yet only one of them is hiding in the hills somewhere in the middle of nowhere with a price on his head.

JChevais
June 3, 2009 5:49 AM
http://noplacelikeit.blogspot.com

That last comment is mine. Dunno why my name got struck. Bizarre.

Anna
June 3, 2009 11:00 AM
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/05/31/tiller/index.html

fyi

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Catherine Connors is a mother, writer and recovering academic who traded the lecture hall for the playroom and discovered that university students and preschoolers have much the same attention span. In addition to Bad Mother blogging at Beliefnet, she is, among other things, the author of HerBadMother.com, the moderator of Her Bad Mother’s Basement, the co-founder and co-editor of WeCovet, a contributing writer/editor at MamaPop and BlogHer, and most recently (deep breath) founder of and contributor to Canada Moms Blog. And in her spare time… oh, wait. She doesn’t have spare time. But she’s okay with that.


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