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A Lighter Moment: Same Sex Marriage Blogalogue
Friday November 21, 2008
Categories: Same Sex Marriage Blogalogue
And now, the always hilarious GraphJam:
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No one -- NO ONE -- serious is talking about forcing churches to perform marriages against their theologies. Religious blessings are different from marriage LICENSES.
Maybe the gay marriage fight should be retitled the gay CIVIL marriage fight. Does that clarify it for you?
A Walker:
Polygamists procreate all the time.
So it strikes me that bans -- or permissions for -- gay marriage are entirely irrelevant to your argument that gay marriage will lead to polygamy.
One might even say the opposite is true, that saying marriage is linked only to heterosexuality, rather than a committed consenting adult COUPLE, permits all kinds of variations of heterosexuality to be included in the definition or marriage.
Of course marriage law applies to heterosexuals only, for the act of heterosexual intercourse places women (and the children they conceive in the act) at immediate grave economic risk. Gays have no such issue requiring contracts to ensure material provision.
As for polygamy, it does reproduce perfectly robustly, *but then the man can't provide materially for all those people,* and the women and children are left destitute and fending for themselves. So polygamy contracts, like gay marriage contracts, fail to protect women and children from destitution.
Polygamy is simply not workable in the modern world, even though it was essential to tribal survival in the ancient world.
And this was the lighter moment.
Is there a sense of humor in the house?
No wonder Jesus preferred tax-collectors and social cast-outs to the hyper-devout. We know God has a sense of humor, don't recall his forbidding the rest of us to ignore that aspect of "made in his image".
Yikes.
Strictly for the record, gays are intrinsically involved in maintaining society. We are overrepresented in the teaching, health-care, policing and military professions. Sort of like the Uncle Wolf explanation for homosexuality in other high-level mammals.
From some of whom we are descended.
The point about cultural & earth-wide consequences of allowing Gays to marry was not actually commented upon.
My Comment: Good point. Major geological catastrophes likely won't ensue - as our logic is not able to connect these 2 events at this time. Nor can I personally see noticeable effect in my own way of life.
If we take a second and imagine the personal and human-wide consequences of allowing SSM, what changes in our existence would come about?
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