The Bible clearer states that homosexuality is a sin. Unfortunately Pastors these days don't talk about the truth. Marriage is sacred and God made marriage between a man and a woman. If we buy into this accept homosexuality God will pour his wrath upon us. The same way he did on Sodom and Gommarrah. Pastors wake up, Christians wake up and fight the good fight. This is a spritual warfare. Everyone will be judged.
Elijah Alexander, Jr.
November 25, 2008 12:03 PM
Let us comprehend Genesis 1:26-3:24. Chapter 1 man are both genders and told to multiply and replenish the earth (KJV) on the 6th day, the 7th day god rested (2:1-3) then there is the preview of the next 2 chapters in verses 4&5. 5 suggests there is the need of a man to till the ground which didn't happen until Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (3:6&17-18). Therefore, mans coming into the mind of good and evil was intentional to get us to till the earth.
Now return to where Eve is said to have come out of Adam (2:18-24). You will notice Adam didn't feel the need of anyone to "help" him "meet" the requirement to "multiply" given to those first man, god did. [Evidently god heard Adam’s thoughts of a desire for someone to live with in a group as he saw some birds and the other animals living.] You will notice god didn't tell Adam of the operation, he only put him to sleep and when Adam awoke Eve was there. Having named everything else previously, he named her according to the dream he assumed took her from him, woven from man in the single term woman.
Had Adam asked the voice about his dream of the girl being removed from him he would have received something like; “for you to live in a group like you see the animals living your masculine or feminine attribute will become dormant”, but having seen the girl in his presence he did not feel the need to ask.
I am a straight but had an experience where a boy laid his hand on my leg which caused my body to act sexually toward him. When I left my wife to live “new born” (John 3:8) I told god to take control of my sexual desires, so that “blew my mind”. After leaving him I began to meditate on it and the foregoing is the results of the answer I obtained.
Michael
November 25, 2008 12:18 PM
In response to Leah Ann.
The problem with the written word is the lack of emotion sometimes depending on the verbiage used. In writing that I wish to convey to you that in no way do I mean this in a harsh way but, no actually "we people" are not miserable as a whole and in the wholeness of the Christian life. I'm speaking completely from my own walk with Jesus. I believe according to what I read in the Bible that I'm to live according to the example set by Jesus. I can never be perfect on this Earth and to think other wise would be folly not only in my cohabitation with the rest of the human race or my growth in my faith. I am heterosexual, but I have many homosexual friends that I love deeply. It saddens me to think that they would be absent during my eternal life in Heaven. I wrestled with what's right or wrong in so many areas in my life from drug use & alcohol to the actual existence of God. I've had experiences in my life that have proved to me that God exists, and during those instances confirmed what took place corresponded with His nature as it's presented in the Bible. I'm not here to judge you or anyone. I believe that He calls us all and I believe that we can either answer the call or not. I believe that's why he gave us a free will and this whole existence called "life" happened. I believe he wanted us to CHOOSE to love Him or else he would have just created some beings to worship Him and not bothered with all this. How fulfilling would that have been though? I don't want anyone to love me or even like me for any other reason than because they choose to. I will live morally to the best of my ability through the grace of God and hope people will love me, but that's all I can do. I can love someone and show them how much I love them, but it's up to them to receive it or not or to reciprocate it or not. I'm sorry if you've been persecuted or hurt because of your sexual orientation. According to the instructions and rules that I've read and through the Holy Spirit's guidance to understand, I've come to the only conclusion that homosexuality is a sin. I didn't write it in there but I believe that the Bible has been divinely inspired to be written. I can say that I DO believe that people can be predisposed for certain behaviors throughout life. I'm predisposed to crave alcohol. I've not stopped it completely and I don't believe that according to the word it's wrong to simply consume alcohol. I do believe that to overindulge to the point of drunkenness is a sin. Having said that I don't mean to be degrading by comparing your sexual orientation to alcoholism as an "affliction." I'm simply saying that according to what I've read and believe homosexuality is a sin. I apologize if I've offended you and if I have, I ask you personally and Jesus to forgive me. I believe he made you a beautiful person and He wants you to be in His presence forever, but I have to believe in all of the Bible or none of it. I believe Jesus came and gave His life to save the world not condemn it, but I believe that He does have a few requirements for this gift. One is that I confess that I'm not perfect in His eyes (a sinner) and believe that He paid the price for me which is death (for sins) and that He rose from the grave (conquering death) so that we also can conquer death and live with Him through his accomplishments forever. I used to think that "Okay, I believe all that so I'm saved and that's that." That is where I have to go back and say "If I believe that extremely good part of the Bible then I have to believe the stuff that's hard (all or none of it)," and since as I've stated before that I've had proof of existence, I do believe all of it, and that's where the Christian life begins. By living according to the words written for me to live by. I write honestly when I wish you the best in life and always know that He loves you and longs for your love. Not all of “us” wants to beat you down. I believe the majority wants to build you up, but we can’t compromise what we believe as truth either. God bless you Leah Ann.
Joe
November 25, 2008 1:53 PM
I will be glad when all people would read the part in the Bible that talks about judging people or the part about the splinter and the plank,or maybe the one about love everybody.I am not a "Christian" I have found most Christians to be arrogant,judgmental people who interpret the Bible to meet there own agenda.I have never seen a group that was more hate-filled than a group of so-called born again Christians. I believe in God but the God I follow loved the world so much that he gave his only son.Maybe there should be an 11th commandment "Thou shalt mind thine own business"
Your Name
November 26, 2008 9:23 AM
I an a saved, holy spirit filled christian who believes everything I read in the bible. The bible views marriagas a very important relationship in the bible. The bible even refers to the great marriage feast that take place for the saints who make it to heaven. Don't get it twisted, GOD is NOT gay. God loves all who he created but he does not love the sins that we commit. He lets grace and mercy abound. We should love one another as chistians but that does not mean that you love the sin. Often times, christinans are afraid to speak the truth because we are afraid to lose friends or family or popularity but the bible says to preach the word in and out of season. Now, If someone can show in the bible where god allowed same sex marriage to happen please post the scripture verse. Other than Sodom and Gommorah who God told Lot to leave and later destroyed, I have not seen any other refrences of same sex marriage. God did bear all our sins on the cross so that we may be free but if we continue in our ways, God will leave us to our retobate minds. What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul? If we are spirit filled christians that follow christ, we follow all his precepts. One day we will all give an account for every word and deed. There is no need for fighting or arrogance from either saved or non-christians. God does not need to fight with anyone for the word to go forth. God is not a man that he should lie or repent. When we chose to come out the will of god for our own selfish purpose god will deal with us until we are convicted in our spirits. My thing is, I will never fight with someone about same sex marriages. My job is to love that person to tell them what the word of God says and let God deal with them because when I am in my sins, God teaches me the truth without condemnation.
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The Bible clearer states that homosexuality is a sin. Unfortunately Pastors these days don't talk about the truth. Marriage is sacred and God made marriage between a man and a woman. If we buy into this accept homosexuality God will pour his wrath upon us. The same way he did on Sodom and Gommarrah. Pastors wake up, Christians wake up and fight the good fight. This is a spritual warfare. Everyone will be judged.
Let us comprehend Genesis 1:26-3:24. Chapter 1 man are both genders and told to multiply and replenish the earth (KJV) on the 6th day, the 7th day god rested (2:1-3) then there is the preview of the next 2 chapters in verses 4&5. 5 suggests there is the need of a man to till the ground which didn't happen until Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil (3:6&17-18). Therefore, mans coming into the mind of good and evil was intentional to get us to till the earth.
Now return to where Eve is said to have come out of Adam (2:18-24). You will notice Adam didn't feel the need of anyone to "help" him "meet" the requirement to "multiply" given to those first man, god did. [Evidently god heard Adam’s thoughts of a desire for someone to live with in a group as he saw some birds and the other animals living.] You will notice god didn't tell Adam of the operation, he only put him to sleep and when Adam awoke Eve was there. Having named everything else previously, he named her according to the dream he assumed took her from him, woven from man in the single term woman.
Had Adam asked the voice about his dream of the girl being removed from him he would have received something like; “for you to live in a group like you see the animals living your masculine or feminine attribute will become dormant”, but having seen the girl in his presence he did not feel the need to ask.
I am a straight but had an experience where a boy laid his hand on my leg which caused my body to act sexually toward him. When I left my wife to live “new born” (John 3:8) I told god to take control of my sexual desires, so that “blew my mind”. After leaving him I began to meditate on it and the foregoing is the results of the answer I obtained.
In response to Leah Ann.
The problem with the written word is the lack of emotion sometimes depending on the verbiage used. In writing that I wish to convey to you that in no way do I mean this in a harsh way but, no actually "we people" are not miserable as a whole and in the wholeness of the Christian life. I'm speaking completely from my own walk with Jesus. I believe according to what I read in the Bible that I'm to live according to the example set by Jesus. I can never be perfect on this Earth and to think other wise would be folly not only in my cohabitation with the rest of the human race or my growth in my faith. I am heterosexual, but I have many homosexual friends that I love deeply. It saddens me to think that they would be absent during my eternal life in Heaven. I wrestled with what's right or wrong in so many areas in my life from drug use & alcohol to the actual existence of God. I've had experiences in my life that have proved to me that God exists, and during those instances confirmed what took place corresponded with His nature as it's presented in the Bible. I'm not here to judge you or anyone. I believe that He calls us all and I believe that we can either answer the call or not. I believe that's why he gave us a free will and this whole existence called "life" happened. I believe he wanted us to CHOOSE to love Him or else he would have just created some beings to worship Him and not bothered with all this. How fulfilling would that have been though? I don't want anyone to love me or even like me for any other reason than because they choose to. I will live morally to the best of my ability through the grace of God and hope people will love me, but that's all I can do. I can love someone and show them how much I love them, but it's up to them to receive it or not or to reciprocate it or not. I'm sorry if you've been persecuted or hurt because of your sexual orientation. According to the instructions and rules that I've read and through the Holy Spirit's guidance to understand, I've come to the only conclusion that homosexuality is a sin. I didn't write it in there but I believe that the Bible has been divinely inspired to be written. I can say that I DO believe that people can be predisposed for certain behaviors throughout life. I'm predisposed to crave alcohol. I've not stopped it completely and I don't believe that according to the word it's wrong to simply consume alcohol. I do believe that to overindulge to the point of drunkenness is a sin. Having said that I don't mean to be degrading by comparing your sexual orientation to alcoholism as an "affliction." I'm simply saying that according to what I've read and believe homosexuality is a sin. I apologize if I've offended you and if I have, I ask you personally and Jesus to forgive me. I believe he made you a beautiful person and He wants you to be in His presence forever, but I have to believe in all of the Bible or none of it. I believe Jesus came and gave His life to save the world not condemn it, but I believe that He does have a few requirements for this gift. One is that I confess that I'm not perfect in His eyes (a sinner) and believe that He paid the price for me which is death (for sins) and that He rose from the grave (conquering death) so that we also can conquer death and live with Him through his accomplishments forever. I used to think that "Okay, I believe all that so I'm saved and that's that." That is where I have to go back and say "If I believe that extremely good part of the Bible then I have to believe the stuff that's hard (all or none of it)," and since as I've stated before that I've had proof of existence, I do believe all of it, and that's where the Christian life begins. By living according to the words written for me to live by. I write honestly when I wish you the best in life and always know that He loves you and longs for your love. Not all of “us” wants to beat you down. I believe the majority wants to build you up, but we can’t compromise what we believe as truth either. God bless you Leah Ann.
I will be glad when all people would read the part in the Bible that talks about judging people or the part about the splinter and the plank,or maybe the one about love everybody.I am not a "Christian" I have found most Christians to be arrogant,judgmental people who interpret the Bible to meet there own agenda.I have never seen a group that was more hate-filled than a group of so-called born again Christians. I believe in God but the God I follow loved the world so much that he gave his only son.Maybe there should be an 11th commandment "Thou shalt mind thine own business"
I an a saved, holy spirit filled christian who believes everything I read in the bible. The bible views marriagas a very important relationship in the bible. The bible even refers to the great marriage feast that take place for the saints who make it to heaven. Don't get it twisted, GOD is NOT gay. God loves all who he created but he does not love the sins that we commit. He lets grace and mercy abound. We should love one another as chistians but that does not mean that you love the sin. Often times, christinans are afraid to speak the truth because we are afraid to lose friends or family or popularity but the bible says to preach the word in and out of season. Now, If someone can show in the bible where god allowed same sex marriage to happen please post the scripture verse. Other than Sodom and Gommorah who God told Lot to leave and later destroyed, I have not seen any other refrences of same sex marriage. God did bear all our sins on the cross so that we may be free but if we continue in our ways, God will leave us to our retobate minds. What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his own soul? If we are spirit filled christians that follow christ, we follow all his precepts. One day we will all give an account for every word and deed. There is no need for fighting or arrogance from either saved or non-christians. God does not need to fight with anyone for the word to go forth. God is not a man that he should lie or repent. When we chose to come out the will of god for our own selfish purpose god will deal with us until we are convicted in our spirits. My thing is, I will never fight with someone about same sex marriages. My job is to love that person to tell them what the word of God says and let God deal with them because when I am in my sins, God teaches me the truth without condemnation.
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