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Yes, Rod, Barack Obama Is a Christian!

Monday November 17, 2008

Categories: Church, Politics, Theology
My soon-to-be-blogalogue partner, Rod Dreher, has today questioned Barack Obama's profession of Christian faith based on a snippet of a 2004 interview in which BO refers to Jesus as a "bridge between God and man."  Of course, BO is not a trained theologian, so we might wish he would have chosen words that more precisely articulated the role of Jesus Christ in redemption, the equality of the second person of the Trinity with the Father and the Spirit, etc.

But it seems that this language has been interpreted by Rod and Joe Carter as code for a liberal Christianity that denies aspects of the Nicene -- even the Apostles' -- Creed.  What I find troubling, however, is all of the assumptions laden in both Rod's and Joe's posts.  BO was never asked to affirm the Nicene Creed or the Chalcedonian definition of Jesus Christ.  Instead, they are reading between the lines of his comments and, by extension, assuming that he would deny the Nicene Creed.  Further, they are ignoring his very clear statement to Christianity Today, "I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life."

It may also be guilt-by-association since some persons in the United Church of Christ, the denomination of BO's former church, do deny the Trinity or the divinity of Christ.  The UCC is known to be a denomination somewhat lenient toward such things.  But just because BO worshiped in a church that is by definition Congregational and therefore non-creedal does not mean that BO himself would deny any of the "orthodox" definitions of Christ or the Trinity.

(BTW, I am very likely one of the postmodern believers that Rod chastises in his final paragraph.  I presented a somewhat controversial paper at Wheaton a couple years ago, and I wrote about it first here, and then when it was rejected for publication in a book on the conference here.  (In a little turnabout-is-fair-play, the rejected essay, which you can find on that latter post, has been downloaded over 3,000 times, which I'm guessing is more than that book will ever sell.)  I'm also friends with and a great admirer of Christian Smith, who coined the phrase "moralistic, therapeutic deism," and I've thoroughly digested the book in which he explicates that idea.  And, let me tell you, Chris doesn't mean what Rod thinks he means.  MTD is not characteristic of teenagers who make up their own religion, but is instead indicative of the lack of precision and passion with which teenagers can articulate the faith that they claim to hold.)

Well, the comment section to Rod's post pretty much already holds all of the theological counterpoints that I'd make to his statement, "I can't agree that [Barack Obama is] a Christian."  So I'll end with this: It seems that there is one sine qua non for Christianity, and it was articulated by St. Paul in Romans 10:9,

That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

And it is abundantly clear that Barack Obama has, on many occasions, affirmed that Jesus is Lord.
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Comments
Jasonq
November 19, 2008 3:49 PM

Mike,

He doesn't have to directly contradict Christ when he speaks, either.

Charles Cosimano
November 20, 2008 3:10 AM

Well, this whole debate has managed to prove something I heard many years ago. "Never underestimate the ability of Christians to make themselves look ridiculous."

Larry Parker
November 21, 2008 12:46 AM
http://community.beliefnet.com/doxieman122

Rod is really the pot calling the kettle black.

He's a Catholic who thinks that anyone who does not memorize and obey every last line of the Catechism is a false Catholic and yet ... what's that? Rod's NOT A CATHOLIC? He's converted to Orthodoxy?

And he's entitled to that personal choice. But he's not entitled to excoriate individual Catholics for disobeying the very prelates he says drove him out of the Church due to his disgust over the sex abuse scandal.

john
November 23, 2008 10:14 AM

Obama is pro-abortion. This is a huge problem. He supports the murder of innnocent people, he is pro-homicide. You might be able to find some statments of Hitler that seem to be Christian, but based on his actions you could not say he is Christian. The same is true for Obama. He has voted to maintain abortion rights many times, he himself is guilty of mass murder.

Byron
November 26, 2008 9:45 AM
http://www.byron-harvey.com

Anyone interested in this subject would do well to read Steve Camp's post where he quotes, verbatim, an interview between Obama and Cathleen Falsani:

http://stevenjcamp.blogspot.com/2008/11/barack-obamas-heterodoxy-playing.html

An excerpt:

FALSANI:
Do you believe in heaven?

OBAMA:
Do I believe in the harps and clouds and wings?

FALSANI:
A place spiritually you go to after you die?

OBAMA:
What I believe in is that if I live my life as well as I can, that I will be rewarded. I don't presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.

When I tuck in my daughters at night and I feel like I've been a good father to them, and I see in them that I am transferring values that I got from my mother and that they're kind people and that they're honest people, and they're curious people, that's a little piece of heaven.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that comes off as works-righteousness to me; does it really sound like the kind of thing a believer in Christ would espouse? Tony and some of his emergent buds want to be tolerant, apparently, but it really comes off as naive from where I sit.

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