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Tuesday March 31, 2009

Categories: Church

Rick Advises Pastors

I think that Rick Bennett is one of the most under-appreciated emergbloggers around.  Today he's decided to dole out some advice to pastors.  He and his family have been looking for a church, so he knows of what he speaks.  A few of my faves:

3. Wear shirts that fit. Don't raid Ed Young, Jr.'s wardrobe. Please. Heck, put on a freakin' suit if you need to. And, if you like those tight shirts, lose weight.

17. Offer some snacks and coffee, but don't brag about it. Wow! You have Starbucks. I will now come to your church. I mean, you just saved me $2.00 per week. What a bargain. Conversely, if you have fair trade (and you should!), let us know. And, don't just offer fattening donuts. You are a church and gluttony is a sin.

21. If you actually value the place of women in your church, give them something to do besides greeter, nursery or back up singer. Your words betray you.

And last... stop trying to make your church seem so cool. It is not. It is church. Church does not equal cool. Your marketing should be honest, not an attempt to show how cool and "with it" you are. The more you try, the worse you look. Just tell us who you are and invite us along for the ride. I have seen too many churches trying to be cool and being inauthentic. If you are a suburb church, don't act like a city church. If you are all suburbanites, we will notice when you move your church into the city to be edgy and then drive home to suburbia. If you don't like poor people, justice and art do not fake it just to make us come to your church. You have turned important things into marketing points and propaganda. We notice when you are faking it, probably before you do.


Monday March 30, 2009

Categories: Parenting

Do People Still Hit their Kids?

Yes, they do.  It's called "spanking."  Here's the premise: In order to improve your children's behavior, you hit them.  Makes virtually no sense, right?  Well, that's exactly what a new study confirmed: Children who were spanked tend to be more aggressive as they grow up.

But leave it to FOX News to provide a "fair and balanced" debate.  If you take the time to watch this short video, you tell me if you think the host's questions are "fair and balanced."

Monday March 30, 2009

Categories: Emergent Church

Emerging Church Round-Up

Emergent Art Car .jpgThere's been some pretty good stuff floating around the interwebs recently on emergent/ing church movement.  I wrote about my experience at the Christian Book Expo last week.  Meanwhile, there was an historic meeting of over 900 at the first-ever Catholic-Emergent meet-up in Albuquerque.  Jonathan Brink was the intrepid reporter on-the-ground for Emergent Village:

What then followed really surprised me. We spent almost thirty minutes in a round table talk. The average age at my table was 50 and Catholic. It was incredible hearing the voices from those in the Catholic church on how they saw the Protestant Reformation. Some quotes include:

1. We're so worried about abortion that we're missing the fact that there are wars going on.
2. Our church is being thrown into total chaos over the GLBT issue.
3. Emergence is going from exclusionary to inclusionary.
4. Words of how we feel: hopeful, excited, searching, human, very excited, energized, thankful.
5. We see you Protestants as having been distracted over the last 500 years.
6. (a Catholic) We're just now discovering we can read the Bible for ourselves.
7. I'm learning to debunk the myths of my own faith.
8. It's nice to talk about who the central authority is: Jesus.

Mike Todd reflected on the event on the plane ride home:



Friday March 27, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Eight

After an all-to-lengthy excursion into interdisciplinary method, it's time to get back into the four core tasks of practical theology. Having been through the descriptive and empirical moments, the third moment of PT is the normative moment.

It is now, after gathering data and using the best of several disciplines to interpret that data, that the practical theologian makes normative claims for the life of the church. Often, practical theology is in conversation with the other volumes of the "theological encyclopedia" at this time, consorting with the likes of biblical studies, systematic theology, and church history.


Thursday March 26, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Seven

OK, this is the final part of what was meant to be a brief tangent. But Jimmy brings up an important caveat in his comment below. My not-so-hypothetical situation of a troubled teen in the school counselor's office was sanitized of the real-life complications of power. Being a trained social worker, and a special ed. teacher, Jimmy knows the power dynamics at work in a situation like this. It should come as no surprise that the pediatrician will come out on top in this hierarchy; not only does she have the most schooling, but physicians -- and the scientific reasoning they employ -- are highly regarded in our society. In contrast, social workers, psychologists, and youth pastors are often seen as dealing in data that is "soft," over against the "hard" scientific data of a physician.

However, the postmodern, hermeneutic turn has done a great service, for it has leveled the playing field. Even the "hardest" scientific data is rife with agendas and money from pharmaceutical companies. In other words, no one is capable of delivering a straight, objective account of what's going on with this boy.

There's been lots of good work done by postmodern theoreticians about power dynamics. The most famous theorist of power is Michel Foucault; I think that Pierre Bourdieu also deserves serious consideration. Both attempt to deal honestly with power dynamics at play whenever human beings are attempting to negotiate a situation, and both are downright pessimistic about the possibilities of getting through power to the other side. Of course, they're both lacking the Christian hope that God might have a hand in this negotiation...


Thursday March 26, 2009

Christian Book Expo: My View

I'd been waiting for Publisher's Weekly to file a report on the Christian Book Expo of last weekend, and now they have.  Marcia Nelson begins with this ominous lede,Stacks of unsold books and glum publishers stood for three days inside...

Wednesday March 25, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Six

OK, I'll start with a concrete situation in order to illustrate the promise of "tranversal rationality." [UPDATE: This is a hypothetical situation; the "boy" is meant to represent a concrete situation or problem. Another analogy could be, for instance, all...

Wednesday March 25, 2009

Categories: Theology

Are Academic Theologians Useless?

I've posted on that question over at Religion Dispatches.We're at a turning point, right now, because of a confluence of two events: 1) the MSM has finally figured out that 3/4s of American's are religious, and 2) the Religious Right...

Tuesday March 24, 2009

Categories: GLBT, Theology, science

A Conversation at the Christian Book Expo

Following my panel discussion, about which I will report soon, I was approached by a well-dressed guy wearing name badge that identified him on the staff with the Institute for Creation Research, an organization with which I was not familiar. ...

Tuesday March 24, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Five

How does one navigate the pluralism of our world today? There's a lot at stake in this question. Currently, there are only a few options available to Christians in a globalized/pluralistic/postmodern society: liberal accomodationism, conservative retreatism, Hauerwasian sectarianism, and the...

Monday March 23, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Four

OK, I was all brewing up a great intermezzo post with a provisional definition of PT, then I got this anonymous comment that blew me away: Practical theology is that theological discipline which is concerned with the Church's self-actualization here...

Sunday March 22, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Three

Practical Theology is a self-consciously hermeneutical enterprise. Now, if you're a regular reader of this blog, you know that I think that all of life is, essentially, a hermeneutical endeavor. Each of us is an interpreter, of our surroundings, our...

Saturday March 21, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part Two

Practical theology (PT), as a discipline, takes a great deal of interest in empirical information. In fact, there is an entire school of thinking within PT -- found mainly in the Netherlands and Germany -- that's called "Empirical Theology." Practical...

Friday March 20, 2009

Categories: Theology

What Is Practical Theology? Part One

Among my most popular posts from my old blog were those on my working definition of practical theology.  As I am engaged in the section of my dissertation in which I establish my version of practical theology, I'll repost the...

Friday March 20, 2009

Categories: Politics

One Day News Boycott

So, I happened to turn the news on in the middle of the night, and I caught wind of President Obama's bad joke about bowling being like the Special Olympics. We all now what's coming: a media onslaught of replays...

Friday March 20, 2009

Categories: Emergent Church

Emergent Village Podcast & Generate Magazine

Two announcements this morning: 1) The Emergent Village podcast relaunches with an interview of Daniel Harrell, author of Nature's Witness.2) Generate Magazine launches -- it's by and about the emerging church conversation, broadly conceived....

Thursday March 19, 2009

Categories: Theology, Travels

Liberal, Conservative, Evangelical, Mainline, Progressive

Last week at the Transforming Theology confab, these terms came up again and again.  And, as usual, much frustration was expressed about the lack of meaning in these words.One debate was over the words "liberal" and "progressive." Some in the...

Wednesday March 18, 2009

Categories: Church, Theology

America's Next Top Theologian?

So, if theologians squared off on a reality show, would a brawl endue, like on America's Next Top Model?  Probably not. But Jonathan L. Walton (who, I must say, was very impressive at Claremont last week) takes up the challenges...

Tuesday March 17, 2009

Categories: Emergent Church, Theology

When Brad Cecil Talks, I Listen (especially when he talks about Mark Driscoll)

In my latest book, The New Christians, I cast Brad Cecil as the unheralded protaganist of the emergent movement .  In many ways, he was.  Coming from an ultra-conservative world of youth evangelism, he volunteer-pastored at a Texas mega-Bible church. ...

Tuesday March 17, 2009

Categories: Theology, Travels, science

Transforming Theology: Emergence for Emergents, Part Two

Here's part two of the video conversation between theologian/philosopher of science, Phillip Clayton, and me....

Monday March 16, 2009

Categories: Funny, Random

How Clean ARE You?

The Washlet.  Does it creep you out?  And seriously, how many euphemisms can you use to avoid saying, "This thing shoots hot water up your ass, then dries you."?...

Sunday March 15, 2009

Transforming Theology: Emergence for Emergents, Part One

Phillip Clayton and I sat down on Friday night for a conversation about emergence science and emergent church.  Here's part one of the video:Thanks to videographer Ryan Parker....

Saturday March 14, 2009

Transforming Theology Wrap-Up: Everything You Think About Progressive Theology Is Wrong

Well, my time here at Claremont is just about up. I'm sitting in Mudd Auditorium, listening to the second of two public panels.  Here are my reflections, looking back on the last three days.First, I have to note that...

Saturday March 14, 2009

Categories: Church, Theology, Travels

Liveblogging Transforming Theology - Day 3

Starting Day 3 here at Claremont School of Theology, we're having panels about whether progressive theology can transform society.9:26am - Jack Fitzmier, who leads the American Academy of Religion, is intense and challenging.  He says that the right people...

Friday March 13, 2009

Categories: Blogging, Church, Theology, Travels

Liveblogging Transforming Theology - Day 2

I'm at the inaugural Transforming Theology gathering: Rekindling Theological Imagination: Transformative Thought for Progressive Action.  Today we're talking about the church.9:16am - Harvey Cox, of Harvard, is giving his 5-minute statement.  He thinks there is an epochal shift coming in...

Friday March 13, 2009

Categories: Theology

SoCal Readers Take Note

Tonight and tomorrow night there are live, public, free events in Claremont with some of the leading progressive theologians in the world.  And tonight's event is followed by a TheoPub at which you can sit, have a beer, and talk...

Thursday March 12, 2009

Categories: Blogging, Travels

This Week

This week has been a light blogging week.  I even removed a post that I wrote yesterday about this because an emailer told me it was too inflammatory and mean-spirited.But, I'm flying off to SoCal today to participate in the...

Thursday March 12, 2009

Comment of the Day

Sara weighs in on Original Sin: And now it's time for a woman's perspective on "original sin." Eve, the woman, fell for the snake's deceit. Eve, the woman, was a deceived transgressor, not Adam (1 Timothy 2:14). Eve, the woman,...

Wednesday March 11, 2009

Categories: Comment of the Day, Funny

Comment of the Day

I'm with Larry:Actually, the mere existence of soccer is proof of total depravity....

Tuesday March 10, 2009

Categories: Comment of the Day, music

Comment of the Day

Rick brashly flaunts my prohibition:To prove total depravity, I only need to look at the following: 1. NFL officiating, especially when the Steelers involved in the Super Bowl. 2. Terrel Owens picking up a new contract. 3. The 14 wins...

Monday March 9, 2009

Categories: Church, Emergent Church

Transforming Theology -- This Week!

Later this week, I'll be in Southern California at the Transforming Theology for the Church consultation.  A couple of the events are public, so I encourage you to come if you live in SoCal.  But if not, there are lots...

Monday March 9, 2009

Original Sin: Calvin's Conundrum

The Original Sin SeriesIntro-Intuition-Definition-Genesis-Jesus-Paul-Augustine-Calvin-ConclusionWhen we last heard from our intrepid doctrine, Augustine had taken Paul's interpretation of Genesis 2-3 in Romans 5 and taken that to mean that Adam's sin conferred not only death on the entire human race, but...

Monday March 9, 2009

Comment(s) of the Weekend

Paul asks,Hey does Tony ever post replies to the comments. I'm a long time lurker here at his blog and I notice he doesn't really reply to criticism of his opinions here. What's up with that?Cody replies,Paul- These are just...

Sunday March 8, 2009

Categories: Quote of the Week

Quote of the Week

Where shall the word be found, where will the word Resound? Not here, there is not enough silence.-T.S. EliotAsh Wednesday (1930)...

Saturday March 7, 2009

My Video Response to Phillip Clayton

Here's my response to Phillip's call:...

Saturday March 7, 2009

Categories: science

What Is Emergence Science?

Phillip Clayton explains:...

Saturday March 7, 2009

Categories: Random

What Is the Credit Crisis?

Here it is, in about 11 minutes: The Crisis of Credit Visualized from Jonathan Jarvis on Vimeo.(HT: Presentation Zen)...

Friday March 6, 2009

Phillip Clayton Wants Me...and You

Scientist/Theorist/Philosopher of Emergence Biology, Phillip Clayton, speaks directly to me and you.  Honestly, the importance of what he's saying cannot be overstated.  Watch it...twice.  Then go to YouTube to see my response....

Friday March 6, 2009

Categories: Church, Politics

Is There an Evangelical Center?

In the Washington Times, Julia Duin ponders that question in her article, "Evangelicals ponder Dobson's successor: New generation looks for leader." It has been interesting watching the shift in power: Franklin Graham is no Billy Graham; the Coral Ridge Hour...

Thursday March 5, 2009

Categories: Bible

When I Turned the Other Cheek

There's been a tasty little discussion here at The New Christians about turning the other cheek, and I was reminded of a moment in 10th grade -- the only time I know when I actually did it.  I was in...

Thursday March 5, 2009

Categories: Bible, Comment of the Day

Comment of the Day 2

More on the Sermon on the Mount, now from Mark Van Steewyk:Hrmpfh. I could write volumes in response to the different assumptions and assertions already popping up here. But I'll try to keep it brief. :) First of all, the...

Thursday March 5, 2009

Categories: Bible, Comment of the Day

Comment of the Day

Angela, on the Sermon on the Mount and martial arts:People are always telling me that when Jesus said "turn the other cheek" he meant "within reason," that when he said to carry the pack an extra mile, he meant "if...

Wednesday March 4, 2009

Categories: Books, GLBT

Proof of Systemic Sin

I've been walking with my friend, Adam Walker-Cleaveland, through his tumultuous process of ordination over the past few months.  And I've often urged him to abandon what I consider to be a broken and probably sinful system.Well, now he has...

Wednesday March 4, 2009

Categories: Bible, Church

The Sermon on the Mount Is an Ideology?

The right-wing Christian Post picked up on the Dallas youth pastor fight club silliness, and did a follow-up interview with the Keysi Fighting Method instructor, Jeff McKissack.  CP picks up on my blog post,* then gets this odd defense from...

Tuesday March 3, 2009

Categories: Church, Emergent Church

Comment of the Day

Drew Tatusko drops a very thoughtful comment Re: Mark Driscoll.Postmodern and post-structuralism aside (since this will sound to some like that but is not), gender is different than sex due to its psycho-social construction. Since it is this, anyone can...

Monday March 2, 2009

Categories: Politics

Sebelius + HHS = Fewer Abortions

This morning, I have signed a last-minute petition supporting the appointment of Kansas Governor, Kathleen Sebelius, as the Secretary of Health and Human Services.  Some on the Right are raising a stink about Sebelius's pro-choiciness, but if you take the...

Monday March 2, 2009

Categories: Emergent Church

Beck Defends Driscoll, While Knitting

The always thought-provoking Richard Beck defends Mark Driscoll's attempt to masculinize the church.Here's my point. People tend to confuse gender role interest and agenic personality motives. If "Joe Six Pack" shows up at church and gets the vibe that he...

Monday March 2, 2009

Categories: Books, Random

Happy Birthday, Dr. Seuss

As a co-alumnus of Dartmouth College, I feel a special connection to the good Doctor.  In fact, he started signing his works "Seuss" while at Dartmouth.In honor of his birthday, here's a link to a free PDF compiled by Dartmouth...

Monday March 2, 2009

Comment of the Weekend

stormtrooper #274.52 objects to Brian's apologia for Pelagius:wow. I can't express how strongly I disagree with Brian's support for Pelagius' teachings. I find such theology to be soul-crushing, gospel-destroying, and faith-squelching. In my eyes, it truly amount to no less...

Sunday March 1, 2009

Categories: Church

Youth Pastor Fight Club!

In Dallas, youth pastors are being trained in street fighting techniques in order to, um, "take care of their flock."  Jeff McKissack is spreading the Batman gospel to youth pastors in Dallas and across the country. He hopes to convert...

Sunday March 1, 2009

Categories: Books, Quote of the Week

Quote of the Week

The Road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began, Now far ahead the Road has gone, And I must follow if I can, Pursuing it with eager feet, Until it joins some larger way Where...

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About The New Christians

Tony Jones is the author of many books, including The New Christians: Dispatches from the Emergent Frontier and The Sacred Way: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Life. He is a leader in the emergent church movement and a renowned expert on postmodern theology and the American church landscape.


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