Honestly, the strangest part for me was when one of the Harrises told me that it was inappropriate to mention that it was personal as well as theological differences that led to Mark Driscoll's break with Emergent. Yes, it was a bit strange to have two 18-year-olds on the panel, much less to be upbraided by one of them...
The video on Tangle. Skip ahead to the 75-minute mark to see the closing statements.
PS: At 39:08, like a mother hen, I help Scot wipe some ink from one of his beloved fountain pens off his face. Seriously, what would he do without me? :-)
PS: At 39:08, like a mother hen, I help Scot wipe some ink from one of his beloved fountain pens off his face. Seriously, what would he do without me? :-)
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SBT- If you would tell a Mormon that in order to be a Christian you must "(see) yourself as a wretched sinner, who is deserving of God's wrath and (understand) your only hope is to fully trust in the life and death of Jesus as the full atonement for your sins. God saves those who believe, His grace flows through faith. Only those who are born again will believe. God is calling us to repentance and holiness. Today is the day of salvation, so repent and believe." They would say.... I believe that too. That is my point. They will insist that they believe what we believe.
Ann-
A true Mormon may say they believe as a Christian does but after a little more understanding of what exactly their beliefs are, it would be evident that they would disagree with the Christian faith as evidenced in the Bible.
A person can say with conviction that they hold to historic Christian faith/creeds and therefore think of themselves as a Christian. But, does their life match that of a believer as presented in the Bible? Are they truly a new creation in Christ? Do they truly hate sin and want to be made holy by sanctification through the holy spirit? And sin is defined by what the Bible says, not by what a person "feels" is a sin. So a person living a gay lifestyle and who does not see that as a sin is not showing evidence of being a true Christian.
Why, exactly, were the twins invited to this panel? I imagine it's because they represent a new generation. Unfortunately, they're in over their heads and come off as a very earnest Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum.
To participate in this type of activity what should we do?
"Yes, it was a bit strange to have two 18-year-olds on the panel, much less to be upbraided by one of them..."
That comment comes off a bit arrogant
they were invited to participate they repeatedly admit their lack of competence on the matter, yet it was their responsibility to contribute to the conversation, yet there you "cherry pick" and unfairly categorize them (sound familiar, it's what you are happy to accuse Kevin of doing)
you overall seemed a bit defensive and in a bad mood in this conversation, why?
You think it is really important to be in conversation with those who have gone before us but Doug says things like the doctrine of theology has run its course..
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