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Why It Matters that Jesus REALLY Rose

Monday May 4, 2009

Categories: Bible, GLBT, Theology
Last week, I spent time with some new friends in Canada. Most of them were church leaders in the United Church of Canada, the result of a denominational merger in 1925. The United Church is unabashedly liberal in its social stances, for example, affirming same sex unions in 2003. Due to my positions on the atonement and same sex marriage, I'm getting less and less invitations from evangelical groups and more and more invitations from liberal groups.

But, I came away from my time in Canada with one thing on my mind: I don't like the package deal. Here's what I mean:

As often when I'm with liberal groups, Marcus Borg's name came up early in the conversation. And, as I usually do, I took that opportunity to affirm my belief in the actual, physical, historic resurrection of Jesus, something that Borg notoriously does not do. (I wrote about my experience with Borg in my book.) Many times over the rest of the weekend, I was approached by participants on the retreat who wanted to challenge me on that -- why do I think it's so important that Jesus actually rose from the grave.

And I understand where they're coming from, because I don't feel the same way about the historic facticity of Adam and Eve, the Tower of Babel, Jonah living in the belly of a fish, or Job's family and cattle being wiped out by God. So it might seem rather arbitrary that I draw the line between some accounts in the Hebrew Scriptures, which I consider mythological (but nonetheless "true"), and the New Testament accounts of Jesus' miracles, death, and resurrection.

Well, as I posted on Good Friday, I consider the miracles performed by Jesus to be extremelyresurrection-durer.jpg important in the understanding of his mission -- with the miracles, he inaugurates the messianic age, and offers the "first fruits" of the final consummation of God's love.

While the Jesus Seminar infamously rejected the miracles as mythological fables, I think it's important that Jesus healed real people of real maladies. The inauguration of a new age would be rather impotant if Jesus wasn't able to heal an actual, physical, historical woman who had suffered from non-stop mentrual flow for years, thus disqualifying her from Temple worship. Yes, she was real, and her blood was real, and her healing really meant that she could join with God's people and experience temple worship.

Why is that important? Because I'm a real person. Because the people to whom I have ministered in Jesus' name are real persons. We're not hypotheses, fables, or legends. And we need real healing, all of us. While our realities may be largely socially constructed, we have real DNA, real physical, material properties.

Thus, since the resurrection of Jesus is his defeat of death, evil, and grief, it's important to me that it really happened. Without a resurrected Jesus, Christianity is impotent. (Exhibit A: liberal Christianity) And I don't mean a Jesus who was "resurrected" in the Disciples' hearts, and in my heart. I mean a real resurrection in the space-time continuum by a physical being known as Jesus of Nazareth, as 99.99% of Christians for the last two milennia have believed.

So, what I'm trying to navigate is my discomfort with the traditional package deal: If you affirm GLBT rights, you end up denying the resurrection. I realize this isn't true across the board, but it seems to me to happen more often than not. Some commenters will say that's because you have to pitch the Bible out the window to affirm GLBT rights, but that is clearly not the case.

So, here's my pledge: I'm going to keep theologizing about ways to affirm historic, orthodox Christianity while undermining the historic Christian perspectives on social issues like slavery, the role of women, and homosexual rights.
 
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Steve A
May 11, 2009 12:54 PM

I was interested to read your post on Out of Ur about "ordaining everyone" http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2009/05/tony_jones_we_o.html#more in conjunction with this post about the truth of the resurrection.
I think it shows the tension--would you ordain (to positions of leadership, not lawnmowing) someone who disagreed with you about the resurrection? About the existence of God? Is there a boundary and how do you pick it? I think once you recognize the reality that all of us have a boundary to our belief then the question of who do you set up in positions of "authority" becomes relevant.

I'd submit that ordination struggles in various denominations--while the possiblity of taint to the process due to sin is always present--are fundamently efforts to be faithful to what you think is really true. People can and do disagree about what is really true, but ordination struggles at bottom are NOT power struggles or meanness, they are efforts to represent the Body of Christ faithfully (despite our frequent failures to do that).

I guess this is just another opportunity to recognize the faithful face behind actions you disagree with and to try to love Christ in people who are driving you crazy!

Your Name
May 14, 2009 2:42 PM

"I don't like the package deal."

Ah, there's the rub. Authentic, potent Christianity IS a package deal; a heretic is, by definition, someone who doen't like the package deal. Therefore, it is about as pointless to reject (Eastern) Orthodoxy (or something like it) for that reason as to reject liberal Western Christianity for the same reason. Somewhere, you have to embrace the whole (what being "catholic" means) to get the behefit of even part of the whole.

That is, in part, why I forsook the Episcopal Church some 17 years ago and came East. It wasn't easy, but it was the best move I've ever made. Go East, young man!

Your Name
May 21, 2009 10:29 AM

Foon Der,

"I am not smart enough to be able to pick and choose which parts of the Bible to take literally or not. I take the whole Bible as is ..."

That is either foolish or a lie. It is so easily disprovable. Surely you are "smart enough" not to put your disobedient children to death? Surely you are "smart enough" not to put the victims of incest to death? Surely you are "smart enough" not to deny communion to the disabled? Surely you are "smart enough" not to realize that eating shrimp or lobster won't send you to hell?

zapata
June 15, 2009 11:23 AM
http://www.patheos.com/Explore/Additional-Resources/Tony-Jones-Sounds-Off.html

For those of you interested in Tony's comments about why same sex marriage and not the historicity of the resurrection has become such a defining issue for conservative Christians, check out a Q & A recently here...http://www.patheos.com/Explore/Additional-Resources/Tony-Jones-Sounds-Off.html

Lion Kimbro
August 4, 2009 4:09 PM
http://www.speakeasy.org/~lion/

Why not refer them to 1 Corinthians 15?

"Yes, folks; He really really really resurrected in the space-time continuum. If he didn't, this whole thing is off. This is all totally useless, if he doesn't resurrect."

I love this: "If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained?"

Sounds like this conversation has happened before.

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