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Thursday February 15, 2007

When thinking about the recent decision on the part of the Conservative Movement’s Committee on Jewish Law and Standards to allow gay ordination and marriage, I try to remind myself that I really don’t like criticizing people and institutions when...
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Scott
February 15, 2007 11:18 PM
HASH(0x214197ec)

Who wroter this? No one signs of on their paragraphs anymore.

Doug from PA
February 16, 2007 3:11 AM
HASH(0x2141a448)

Following the logic of the Conservative rabbis, it presumably is OK for people to engage in all sorts of sexual activity short of intercourse with sisters, brothers, aunts, uncles, mothers, fathers, etc. since only that activity is specifically prohibited by the Torah.

Grethel Jane Rickman
February 16, 2007 3:48 AM
HASH(0x2141dc58)

Geez! Talk about a HUGE fallacy! Things are getting a bit "slippery" around here. What?! I mean "slippery slope." http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/slippery-slope.html

Scott
February 16, 2007 12:06 PM
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Doug, Maybe you need to read the Cnservative ruling some more.

leta calvert
February 16, 2007 1:11 PM
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I'm trying to understand why there is so much indecision about homosexuality. We say that God is the same yesterday today and forever more. The Bible is very clear on homosexuality being an abomination in the old and new testament. God does love the person but hates the sin. Most importantly God is a Deliverer! We make God appeart to be weak when we began to comprimise truth. Homosexuality is a spirit of deception and I have seen it in action on many of occasions. The key to bringing deliverance to them is to understand where the deception entered in. Many homosexuals have been molested or abused in some kind of way. We should love them as a person and also respect them and most importantly pray for them that their eyes would be opened to the truth.

curiouser and curiouser...
February 16, 2007 3:59 PM
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keta, Shame on you for promulgating vile, viscious, hateful untruths - it's called bearing false witness against G-d's gay and lesbian children. "The Bible is very clear on homosexuality being an abomination" So is eating lobster. "God does love the person but hates the sin." Too bad Her 'followers' reverse that concept and bash the persons. "We make God appeart to be weak when we began to comprimise truth." What you have posted is only your version of "truth"; it does not even approximate THE TRUTH, let alone reality. "Homosexuality is a spirit of deception" Ugly, ugly, ugly and untrue. "and I have seen it in action on many of occasions." You will, no doubt, be posting a few vivid examples to bolster your opinion, won't you? "The key to bringing deliverance to them is to understand where the deception entered in. Many homosexuals have been molested or abused in some kind of way." Another untenable lie. At long last, have you no sense of decency? "We should love them as a person and also respect them" You couls start by stopping your false witness. What you have posted is in NO WAY "loving" OR "respectful". "and most importantly pray for them that their eyes would be opened to the truth." Hon, MY eyes have been open since I was 5 years old and knew I was attracted to other boys, despite my extremely religious upbringing. I DO know the truth. Too bad YOU don't.

curiouser and curiouser...
February 16, 2007 3:59 PM
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sorry, leta, not keta. Still lies though!

Grethel Jane Rickman
February 16, 2007 4:23 PM
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Quite frankly, there isn't an old or a new testament. There is a Sinai covenant which is still in effect today. Correct. HaShem hasn't changed nor has his instructions to Israel. HaShem is not a man! Shema Yisrael, Adonai Eloheinu, Adonai Echad! Prayer is also not magic. It is not begging. It is not about requesting something from God. Prayer is connecting with God. It is upward. It is bringing God close. It is a sacred service of the heart. It is not centered on the self.

Scott
February 16, 2007 5:52 PM
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There is no "new" testament. On that all Jews can agree.

Kurt
February 17, 2007 4:48 PM
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I appreciate the deep thought Rabbi Stern has given to this complex matter and what he has stated here. Homosexulaity and religion present a matter of deep concern to anyone who is religious, loves God, and loves people. One struggles. I believe the person who cares about relationship with God has an innate concern that religion will cease to hold us to any standard, just as a child does not want to be punished by a parent for misdoing but deep inside is comforted by knowing the parent cares because the parent has requirements. I I believe that a real concern to thios

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