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Letter to an Evangelical Friend

posted by Brad Hirschfield | 8:23am Monday August 25, 2008

Some months ago I had the pleasure to meet a documentary film maker who is also an Evangelical Christian. Actually, those two facets of his identity are pretty closely related, at least right now, as he is working on a doc about the historical accuracy of the Exodus story. But the historicity of those stories and whether or not it matters if they “really happened”, is for another time. Today is about the questions that he posed to me in a recent letter, questions about the meaning and purpose of life, and how we decide what is right. Here is some of what he wrote:
Rabbi Brad – I struggle to write and to make clear arguments but if you would have the patience with me I would like to take portions that I have read from your book (You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right) and ask you questions and continue a healthy dialogue.
Page 9: “When faith simplifies things that need to remain complex, instead of giving us strength to live with complexity, when it gives answers where none exist, instead of helping us appreciate the sacredness of living with questions, when it offers certainty when there needs to be doubt, and when it tells us that we have arrived when we should still be searching — then there is a problem with faith.” This is really good stuff. I would like to prayerfully take thoughts and ideas and keep asking the questions concerning faith and the real world.
I’ll wrap it up with this idea, for whatever reason I think of “Sex in the City”. I think its popularity confirms that many people seek physical pleasure over spiritual connection or faith. It’s not that they need to be separate but in certain situations according to the bible there are certain accountabilities that give instruction to sexual relationships. In trying to have it so that one can be sexually active some would say this is wrong others would say this not wrong but right. Do people decide? I remember reading in scripture there was a time, “When everyone did what was right in their own eyes” or has this been decided by G-d and it does matter? Will there be consequences?
My response:


Hi ____,
Your closing questions are great ones. I will try and provide a brief answer now, and encourage you to be in touch for a longer conversation.
So here’s the bottom line for me: decisions based on “what is right in our own eyes”, are always less than ideal. But simply invoking God or His word, which is always an interpretation no matter how literally the words appear, does not get us off that hook. In fact, that is what I mean by living with questions, doubt and ambiguity — not at the expense of faith, but as a compliment to it, or as an expression of it. Because actually, all of those doubts, questions, etc. are really expressions of the modesty and humility which must be a part of any genuine faith.
Does that mean that we give ourselves over to post-modern paralyses, unable to make a firm commitment to anything, anyone, or any limits? Of course not! It means that we live with just enough of those questions to keep our hearts open to those with different interpretations, and our minds open to that which we can learn from those with whom we disagree.
For example, I do not think that I will ever be a Christian, but I know that there is wisdom found in a life which acknowledges Jesus Christ. While I can not live that truth, I can accept that there are truths within that faith which you live every day, and I am grateful that you live them. I also hope that others will see me and my faith decisions in a similar light.
Whether it’s Sex in the City, or the fact that you and I might disagree about how to live the sexual lessons of Leviticus (I am guessing that, like most Christians, and most Jews for that matter, you don’t observe the laws of monthly immersion in a mikveh, ritual bath), it does not mean that one of us has stopped caring about those words. They do however speak to us in different ways.
So, we need to be careful about asserting that we are doing “what God wants” and not what we want. The God in whom I believe, is infinite and therefore has no desires, in the usual sense of that word. God may have a will for us to follow, but it may be different for different people, just as a parent may want different things for their different children. And because He is infinite, His will manifests itself in many different ways and works through multiple traditions. We however are finite, so we do our best to live one of them.
This means that if we are doing really well, we have the opportunity to become masters of one part of God’s will, and need to leave mastery of other parts to others. Before an infinite God, we should probably think more about both/and than either/or.
Will there be consequences to our decisions, you ask. I believe that there always are. But since I also believe that they come from God, I leave that to Him.
I hope that this is helpful and that this is the beginning of a wonderful conversation.
Peace,
Brad



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nathan

posted August 25, 2008 at 11:06 am


His documentary is going to be awfully short. How much evidence is absolutely no evidence?
Being an ex-Christian I must say that Jews have such a healthier outlook when it comes to virtually everything, especially the place of scripture.



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Nell Minow

posted August 25, 2008 at 11:31 am


The God in whom I believe, is infinite and therefore has no desires, in the usual sense of that word. God may have a will for us to follow, but it may be different for different people, just as a parent may want different things for their different children. And because He is infinite, His will manifests itself in many different ways and works through multiple traditions. We however are finite, so we do our best to live one of them.
This is a beautiful thought. I was taught, “Many mountains reach the sky.”



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Jeremiah Price

posted August 26, 2008 at 8:11 pm


Rabbi Brad -
Whoa – stop the train here for a minute! How has it been determined that this man to whom you are speaking is an Evangelical Christian? Certainly nothing of what is shown of his letter to you identifies him as such! Further, I see no scriptural support given for the position you base an entire section of theology on, that G-d being infinite has no desires – only a will that is possibly different for each person. An infinite will is still ONE will – and that will has been very explicitly defined in the instruction manual He gave to man. Whether Jewish or Christian that part of our scriptures is very much the same, and it doesn’t leave any question concerning faith and His directives.
Faith is not a tool to interpret and define those directives each according to his own belief – Faith is the ability to discern and accept G-d’s desire for man (plural)and put into practice the directives (will) that He has given to us. You are treading on a very slippery slope which at it bottom end has the false tenet that “all paths lead to G-d”. If that was so, why did He order some belief structures completely eradicated for their blasphemy? Or do we pick and choose at our discretion among his directives and accept only those that support our positions? Our positions should rather support His directives to us as a people – and those directives are far from undefined.
Jeremiah Price



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Joe

posted August 27, 2008 at 12:57 pm


B”H
We should keep in mind that Judiasm uncategorically affirms a real meeting between G-d and Moses, and G-d and the entire Jewish Nation, at Mount Sinai, 40 days after the Exodus from Egypt.
At that meeting, G-d give His will to His nation, and at the same time, outlined His will to the non-Jewish nations of the world.
The exact “minutes” of that meeting were transferred from generation to generation, as explained in Ethics of The Fathers (Pirkei Avot), which eventually resulted in the Divinely-inspired Shulchan Oruch (“Code of Jewish Law”) which traditional Jews follow today. In addition, His will to the non-Jewish nations is expressed in the Seven Noahide Laws.
Such laws as Family Purity (Mikveh), Kashrut, Shabbat, Prayer, Tefillin, etc. are meticulously kept today by observant Jews, and are considered as essential today, as 3,300 years ago. Those who don’t keep these laws should not say that “G-d may not care about them,” but rather they should acknowledge that they have a problem with them, whatever that may be. G-d DOES care. That’s been demonstrated in 3,800 years of history. As the Sages said, “Go and learn!”…



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