Who Stands With Israel, Republicans or Democrats?
Friday October 3, 2008
The answer is, yes. And the real issue is how supporters of Israel understand what it means to "support Israel". Is it a function of pressuring the State of Israel to do what it "should do" from the perspective of...
Filed Under: barack obama, casting stones, danny ayalon, democratic support for israel, joe biden, jon mccain, peace in the middle east, pro-israel, republican support for israel, sarah palin, the vice presidential debate
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Author, radio and TV talk show host, and President of CLAL-The National Jewish Center for Learning and Leadership, Brad Hirschfield is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Wrong For Me To Be Right: Finding Faith Without Fanaticism. Listed as one of the nation’s 50 most influential rabbis in Newsweek, and a regular commentator on Court TV, he is the creator of the popular series, Building Bridges, airing on Bridges TV, and the co-host of the weekly radio show, Hirschfield and Kula. More About Brad
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Jehovah stands with Holy Land.
Friends, do NOT push,preasure or intimidat, friends.!!!Enemies, do that.
As I've said before: " Friends, do NOT, push, intimidate, or other things in like manner, to get friends, to help them, build a "legacy", for themselves, at the friends, expense.!!!!
ANSWER IS EASY AS WAVING A FLAG-BOTH they know who their friends are.
hugs
Laura
if this is a repeat sorry but I must have hit the wrong key!
The question of which party is for Israe;, the Jews, or any such thing is both
All corporations and organizations now give money to all parties cause they want them to think the biz is on their side when they want something later!
So for many reasons both parties know who their friends are or where they can get the bucks.
Hugs
Laura
obama supports an undivided jerusalem in front of jewish audiences (ie, AIPAC) and the very next day, folding to arab pressure, says what he meant was, there will be negotiations and jersusalem would be part of those negotiations (i cannot quote verbatim but that is, in essence, what he said). that is not the mc cain/palin future for jersusalem. they both clearly state, strong, safe borders for israel, two separate states w/o division of jerusalem. period. nuff' said.
The two state solution will never work.
Since people compare the size of Israel roughly to the size of New Jersey, let's put it this way. Granted, the ocean/sea is on the wrong side, but you should get the idea.
Take Bergen or Essex County for the state of Palestine.
Take Salem County for the state of Palestine.
Everything in between is Israel.
Doesn't seem very feasible now, does it?
"nuff said is a bunch of hooey. I don't trust McCain/Palin as far as I can throw them.
And I can't be a one-issue person any more than I want others to be.
Obama is another Clinton type hyppocrit, not to mention an empty suit. Just like Clinton he sees moral equivalecy of the Israelis and the dirt bag Palestinians.
Anyone who can belong to a church for 20 years that preaches hate and repeatedly honors and praises Farrakhan clearly cannot be trusted to be even fair to Israel, much less a friend to Israel.
Obama is another Sharpton but with more polished speech.
The irony is that Bush, who was very pro-Israel, has probably done more than any other Prez (including Carter) to endanger Israel.
I predict that as the USA's Muslim population increases both parties, led by the Democrats, will increasingly cater to their wishes in order to secure their votes.
http://www.islamtoday.com/showme2.cfm?cat_id=38&sub_cat_id=1791 has the results of a survey by Pew Research has it as 1.86 million in February of this year. This number is disputed by many Muslims, some claiming the number to be as high as 8-10 million. (Google "US Muslim Population" and wade through the listed sites.)
Birth rates in the USA are not available based on religions.
I'm staunchly pro-Israel. That being said, I'm more interested in which party stands with the U.S.!
The 2 state system will never work for one simple reason, the palestinians don't want 2 states, they want the Jewish population out of that whole area period. In the past when Clinton and Bush tried to come up with a solution, in my opinion that was unfair to the Jewish people, the Palestinians wanted more and more. Even when the Jewish people offer up peace and their land they are attacked from the mainstream media and the local Muslim population. And the blog by bigcinrochester is dead on correct. Who one associates themselves with is who they truly are as an individual. Finally, Bush did not do more to harm Israel, in what way backed up with facts might be nice.
I am so sick and tired of people telling me how to vote as a Jew. I will never see the Republican Party as anything but the Christian Party, and Sarah Palin as an anti-Semite. History also shows that white anti-Semites are a lot more dangerous than black ones.
In general Jews are Democrats.
They will vote only for Democrats even if the Democrat running is a terrorist sympathizer, has strong ties to the Muslim religion, AND to the radical Christian religion.
C'mon people vote your logic. If for no other reason we do not need one party controlling the House, the Senate and the Administration.
This is bad for America.
James,
Obama belongs to the United Church of Christ: the church of the Pilgrims. It doesn't get more mainstream than that. He isn't a "terrorist sympathizer" and he doesn't have "strong ties tot he Muslim religion". This lashon hara while the gates get ready to close is shameful and disgusting. And if you're doing this as a Christian, I think you people believe you can go to hell for bearing false witness.
If you're a Jew and you vote for Palin, who is almost an open anti-Semite, you cut your throat.
The Lord God stands for lsrael.But if you are talking about which candidate would stand for Israel it would not be Obama because he said if it came down to a choice between Israel and the muslums that he would side with the muslums.You are better off to trust the Lord.He might be back sooner than you think.
To James;I don`t care what church Obama belongs to,he said he would side with the muslums if it came down to that.He said that with his own mouth and you need to find out exactly what he is.He is not a friend to the jews.Also you sound a lot like you hate christians.You need a reality check for your own good.
Where in the world did you hear that Obama said that he would side with the Muslims?? I really do want to know, please. What are your specific reasons for saying that Obama is not a friend to us? As Jews we care for the whole human family, most of whom are not getting even their basic needs met because of the policies of the Bush administration to a large extent, policies which McCain would continue.
Most of the third world is starving already and the food supply is less and less available. America seems to think that the only people who matter are (white, Chistian) Americans. We must not, as Jews, share the same mentality, surely.
Debra,
You're lying. Shame on you. Obama has said over and over that he would side with Israel. You're right wing Christian paranoia is taking over. Obama is a friend to Jews. Right wing Christians are not!
Go to AIPAC and look up Obama's voting record on Israel. His score is as high as it can be. Now, look up Palin's score. Just joking--she's not on AIPAC's site since she's never been involved in anything having to do with Israel's welfare. But she tosses around the word "Holocaust" as if she owns it. Please.
The first comment posted is an outrageous lie, quoted from McCain's propaganda: Obama has never suggested he would "side with" Muslims. Obama is a Christian but actually believes in separation of religion and the state. His approach to Israel is the same as his approach to all of our strong allies: we are with you forever but no blank check on every decision you make! Justice for Palestinians and security for Israel are BOTH critical to the future of peace in the Middle East and indeed throughout the world. Obama will be loyal to Israel, and will balance the interests of that state with the development of a second stable and peaceful democratic state of Palestine.
To David Goldstien -
Do you actually believe that REV. DR. JEREMIAH WRIGHT, TRINITY UNITY CHURCH OF CHRIST is mainstream Christian?
Barack Husein Obama's family is Muslim on his father's side (both of his fathers) Do you also believe that he does not have strong sympathy with Muslims.
Wake up people. This man is a con artist.........but then he is a Democrat, and Jew must vote for Democrats
James,
And his "fathers" are Muslim. So you're suggesting what? That he must hate Jews, want to harm Israel, be a bad American? Do what Lori said. Go to the AIPAC site. He's a friend of Jews.
Yeah, we do vote Democrat. If you think Democrats are bad, lok at what the Republicans did from the 30's on, refusing any sanctuary for Jews from Hitler (Y"S). Why? Because they're the CHRISTIAN PARTY!
P.S. Telling people to wake up is so condescending and a sure conversation stopper.
Dovid, why are you anti-Christian? Views like yours are why we will never have peace.
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