Who Will Call Out John Piper?

The Jesus of the New Testament does indeed preach about love in the sense referred to MikeC, but he also talks about the Judgment of a righteous God upon things that he hates. Jesus died for sinners, that is clear, not just to die for them, but so that they WILL trust him and put aside all sin and follow him.

With this point of reference in mind, the conservative church or whatever you might want to call it has a strong biblical standing upon homosexuality. In response to homosexuality, it is clear from the Bible that if the word of God is true, which I believe it is, we can observe it in the every day world as well. Human physiology clearly shows that Males are Made for Females in the way that the Penis enters the Vagina perfectly, so when two become one, life can possibly result as an action. In the same way, we become one with Jesus through the cross NOT on our own terms, but on the terms provided by God through Christ. This is perhaps why Gay people in such relationships have such a higher chance and likelihood of dying from STD's. God wants people to turn away from their sin. So the ordination of a gay priest/bishop/pastor, wants the love part, but refuses to accept that to follow Christ is to leave all sin behind. The Genesis account of man and woman is the clearest example from Scripture of what is God's standard for relationships, and this can be backed up by verifiable evidence. It is made too big of a deal because it is a "hot issue," in politics, to God, all sin is a BIG issue, so under the qualifications of a pastor/deacon found in 1 Timothy, "A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;" and 11Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things. 12Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. How does a church that allows the ordination of homosexuals get past this verse? But only by conforming to the standard of our country and world. God has a much higher standard, how about we let the standard of his word conform us, rather than try to let the world conform us.

As for the Tornados, I am not God, I do know he talks about in his word about incoming disasters, but I've also seen "Good" Christians who love Jesus get cancer randomly out of the blue. The ones that love the Lord go to the grave loving Jesus or they gain strength from him, but they truly seek him out through the whole ordeal. So trying to explain a tornado and dissect God's motivations for causing it to happen is by large here say. Piper is right when he says it is quite possible that God meant it as a call to repentance. Look at the storms and disaster in the Old Testament, they aren't random acts with no purpose, God is always behind it and it is always an act to bring people back to repentance for their unfaithfulness. Whether or not the tornado "changed" directions is to call condemnation, it might be, but it also might be for other reasons. Again it is a "Hot topic." people like to make things out of hot topics because it is something to talk about.

The point is, our GOd is ABSOLUTELY A LOVING GOD, but he is absolutely also a righteous God that sees beyond what we see, we see the Hot topic of the day, GOd sees people turning back to him and maybe a warning to come with it. People will go there own way even in churches, they will choose their values and pick and choose what parts of the Bible they like and ignore the rest, is this biblical Christianity? This is called American Christianity largely, turn back to the Bible, not interpretations from a 21st century American - do whatever is right to you point of view as you can find in the book of Judges, but the long-lasting history of the true church that has been faithful to God. It can't be because Jesus did not come out of nowhere, he came from the prophecies of the Old Testament, and he used his Apostles to establish his church on the basis of the Old Testament being the Word of God. Also, some extra tidbit.

I m only a training pastor in brooklyn. God called me,as i was a restaurant owner and manager for the past 25 years. I had a terrible near fatal accident one night coming home from work.then soon after God began to totally direct my life. he sent me to a pastors reveilalin boston i saw a tunnel come over the stageof fire going up to heaven. the pastor began to prophecy that God told him the next 25 years on this planet would be the worst time in history. the power of God went through me i thought i was letteally on fire. it was awsome. after that God began to show me many Futre events through the scripture and other prophets.i could write for hours of the things God has reveal to me to teach me. but here is m point. i only go or see what God is trying to show me. I beleive him i have seen so many miracles and real visions while i was completely awake not deaming. when they happen they are more real then realty. God burns them into your spirit he writes them onto your heart. that's why know one can tell me God is not real and that he is not write now judging us in this country. we are living in the beginning of sorrows math 24
if you beleive in the holy spirit slow down and spen time in God's presence he will reveal many things that he is not pleased with and many things that are to come.God Loves all of us but he hates sinners he word cannot change. we try now to change his lwas and staues to fit
our life stlye. if we reject God he says he will give us over to a lie. this has happen to many in the church and outside of the church.
so now i know from what you said about John Piper that God is using Him and guiding him. you see it is had to realyy beleive with all of our heart and all of our mind and all of our soul. we think we are so smart because we are so educated. this has nothing to do with hearing form God or beleiving him. shut yourself into your room, secret closet, shut off your phone, do not eat anything for as long as you can. lay on the floor on your face. then ask God anything you what about anything or anybody and God will reveal it to you.
then you will know what God is saying because you will hear him yourself

This article seems to ignore the full scope of what Piper really said:

"Conclusion: The tornado in Minneapolis was a gentle but firm warning to the ELCA and all of us: Turn from the approval of sin. Turn from the promotion of behaviors that lead to destruction. Reaffirm the great Lutheran heritage of allegiance to the truth and authority of Scripture. Turn back from distorting the grace of God into sensuality. Rejoice in the pardon of the cross of Christ and its power to transform left and right wing sinners."

Two days later he wrote the following: Three years ago God sent the tornado of cancer into my life. It split the steeple of my health and shredded the tents of my sexual life. I wrote an article to myself: Don’t Waste Your Cancer. It could have been titled: Don’t waste your tornado. God’s message to me in my tornado was essentially the same as to the ELCA in theirs."

Biblically speaking Piper nailed it. He is in perfect alignment with Jesus' statement in Luke 13. ANd he is not even close to echoing statements by Falwell and Robertson. If that puts him outside of mainstream evangelicalism, then so be it. I will gladly join him outside of that camp if being evangelical means watering down biblical truth.